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  • Attendies:
    • TBD
  • This meeting:
    • Chair: Henrik
    • Notes: DavidB

Last Weeks Action Items

  • [DONE] DavidB/Henrik: Add section for goals review to weekly scrum pads
  • [DROPPED] DavidB/Henrik: Start brainstorming for overall goals until end of 2012
    • Dropped for now to get started right away. Main reason is that the whole company is in a change we need a final understanding of our company-wide strategy first. Also it's now a team goal for Q4.
  • [NEW] Dave: Cancel future endurance test meetings and incorporate updates into meeting template
  • [DONE] Matt: Send out email for final goal definition deadline
  • [DONE] DavidB: Send out email for proposals for Q4 goals


  • Handling of meeting invites via calendar (zimbra vs. automation services) [Henrik]
  • Which website to use nowish for weekly scrum pads? [Henrik]
  • Finding Leads for Q4 goals projects [Henrik / David]
    • Remote Mechanism to trigger Mozmill tests for Firefox releases (Geo? / ?)
    • Prototype of a Fennec Driver (DavidB / Henrik?)
    • New Members and Mentors Pages (?? / ??)
    • CI system for daily and l10n Firefox Builds (Henrik / ??)
    • Selenium Grid (DavidB / ??)
    • Definition of long term team goals for 2012 (DavidB / Henrik)
  • Community Stewards [Henrik]
    • What can we do to promote our work and hold community members?
    • How strong should our group be bound to QA vs. Automation (Dev)? Do we wanna join the already existent Tools and Automation group?
    • What about possible job descriptions for volunteers, i.e the newsletter
  • Anyone want try automate the new Fennec UI with Robotium

Goals Overview

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Issues / Blockers

  • No updates

Remote Mechanism to trigger Mozmill tests for Firefox releases

  • No updates

Prototype of a Fennec Driver

  • Have initial start of design in Selenium

New Members and Mentors Pages

  • No updates

CI system for daily and l10n Firefox Builds

  • No updates

Selenium Grid

  • No updates

Definition of long term team goals for 2012

  • No updates

Project Updates

Please mark topics which need to be discussed in the meeting as bold

Endurance Tests

  • Current Work
    • In Progress
    • Landed Recently
    • Backlog
    • Regressions
    • Failing Tests
  • Discussion Items


  • Shadow test server
    • vsftpd configured (including ssl) for and defaults to Limtus data directory for anonymous access.
  • Cloud Automation
    • No updates this week
  • Mozmill Infrastructure
    • Mac Minis are on site but are still being configured by IT. Being added to existing Macs in floor 2 server room.
    • HP servers are on site but have not been racked in foor 3 server room yet.

Case Conductor (TCM)

  • No updates


Feedback from Firefox Desktop Automation team

  • All locales test-run cannot be executed due to resource issues on machines (bug 658509)

Shared Modules

  • No updates

API Refactor

  • Handful of basic platform technical issues (node finding, module loading) identified over last couple of weeks. Isolating and getting attention on them via A-Team and further to understand need for workarounds and fixes.

Automation Scripts

  • No updates


  • No updates

Mozmill Crowd

  • No updates

On-demand Testing

  • Project significantly expanded (maybe even re-oriented) for Q4 goal.
  • Are in the requirements-gathering stage of the Q4 project.
  • Currently investigating use of Jenkins and similar tools, as well as understanding whether we can fulfill both CI and on-demand goals through same/overlapping systems.


  • Pre-configured Mozmill Environment
    • Investigation and documentation for requirements can be found on the wiki page.
    • It's not that easy to transplant from the Add-ons SDK because it already requires Python to be installed. But further experimentation already solved the problem on OS X with xtools. On Windows the py2exe tool should help.


  • Grid
  • Mobile


  • E.g. JMeter

Personal Status

For the personal status please check the weekly status updates:

Meeting Notes

The meeting notes for this meeting can be read in the following etherpad:

Action items

  • [DONE] Henrik to update calendar
  • [NEW] Geo schedule and drive discussion with the rest of group so we can update goals around the community
  • [NEW] EMail John Hammink on Robotium and CC QA-Staff