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QA Org Items
New Hires & Interviews Candidate in office tomorrow for in-person interview for Bugmaster role. Please read the interview prep if you are on the interview list.
Upcoming Events/Conferences A-team work week Oct 23 - Oct 27 in Toronto (Dave, Henrik, Cameron) B2G Workweek in SF (nov 5-9)
Travel / PTO
- Please add your PTO and working remotely information to the Gmail calendar.
mbrandt - half day of PTO Friday, 2012-10-19 ashughes - working from Toronto Oct 22, 23, 24; on PTO Oct 25, 26 marcia - traveling Thursday 10-18, 10/19 Prep for Workshop which will be 20-21 in Turin. I expect to be on PTO from Monday-Thursday of next week, but who knows jsmith - vacation on 10/25 (birthday) john h - vacation 11/16-26 krupa out 10/16 to 11/07 Aaron out 10/26 (fsoss) camd - A-Team workweek in toronto 10/23 - 10/26 Softvision has a office event: Oct 26
QA Team Updates
Firefox Firefox 17.0b2 builds available for testing: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/Firefox_17/Test_Plan#Beta_2 Firefox 17 CTP Blocklisting for Flash 10.3 to 11.4 will be going live this week Continuing to warn OSX 10.5 users that Firefox 16 is the end-of-the-line
ESR (ashughes) 10.0.8esr and 10.0.9esr released last week We'll have 2 esr branches to deal with once Firefox 17 is released
Stability (marcia) Notes from 10/15 meeting: https://wiki.mozilla.org/CrashKill/2012-10-15 Platform Stability Report: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2012-10-16#Desktop Going forward the format of this meeting will be changing, but we don't yet know what the specifics are related to Stability reporting at the meeting
Automation (ashughes) Nothing new to report
Sync Client (Tracy) services-central train testing underway by community volunteers
Security (Matt) Mochitest media Bug regression
Issues fennec: fx17 beta contains h.264 and webapps. please try them out fx17 beta testday target November 2 b2g: dogfooding phones deploying today. If you havent requested one, and you're in MV, SF, or TO, get on the list asap. https://b2gtestdrivers.allizom.org QA can help in more specific areas by getting in touch with John (Gaia), and Geo (Gecko) Marketplace/payment has new dates
Fennec (Kevin/Aaron) Firefox 17 beta 2 build issues - required build 2 eta release Friday Stability (nhirata) https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2012-10-16#Mobile
B2G (Geo/jhammink) Need to reassess test areas from new FFOSv1 Sheet Remap testcases to UCs Write testcases to fill in new gaps Suggestion - we pick up settings first (and work out from that to mitigate any risks of lack of early coverage/testcases on system platform) Smoketest now updated to accomodate Unagi, "partial" failures Lots of current regressions Stability (nhirata) still need ADU, UI implementation (margaret to pick up), Symbols Email needs drafts/trash implemented Browser has two main issues of either crash/frowny face : Last week's team rollup update: https://intranet.mozilla.org/Program_Management/Firefox_OS/WeeklyStatus/20121005 https://github.com/geoelectric/webapi-smoke-sprint code complete, putting up for review as soon as mochitest on B2G is fixed Working on porting existing mochitests to B2G over from several areas: alarm, device storage, power management, contacts, screen orientation Moztrap 1st round of features have landed on dev (perf fix & ordering testcases in suites) camd is re-assessing the initial story point estimates team is reviewing feature priorities for the next iteration BIRT other shennanigans have prevented work on the reports the team has access to prod db expect an inititial drafted report by eow
Apps (Jason) Lots of instability and UX flux on apps - been told to hold off testing until new flows land on 10/26 Payments - scoping use cases right now for testing that might be needed, supporting bug verifications as need be Confused on the story for preloaded for 3rd party apps
Pancake (nhirata) Flopped. It's on hold.
Community Members Onboarding
Sync Server (jrgm) - https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Sync/ engineering goals for Q4 are limited: support sync 1.2 improvements, and deploy the marketing campaign notiications work for Fennec.
BrowserID (jrgm) - https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/BrowserID working on next release of browserid train-2012.10.12 which will go out likely next Wednesday automation tests proceeding with jared and stomlinson
Hiring and Training
Affiliates Small release scheduled for tomorrow @ 1pm PST
B2G/Gaia testing: while Zac works on stability and coverage: https://github.com/zacc/gaia-ui-tests, A-team is working on getting our tests running in CI: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=801898 pushing the Marionette platform and getting A-team's help on features/fixes
Bouncer Successful 2.1 milestone released 2012-10-16 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=801859
Engagement Projects Mozillians fixes for location search and django upgrade are in testing
Firefox Marketplace Manual testing on-going, with a release tomorrow Automation cranking away too:
Mozilla.com Lots of great automation coverage coming in from Bob Silverberg: https://github.com/mozilla/mcom-tests/commits/master automation is now grabbing links on the page and checking their structure, and that they return a 200 OK shipped Download button fixes for Aurora, working on IE6-9 https bug Mozillians Rebecca working on testing a couple fixes to Elastic Search
MDN shipped release https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/User:lmorchard/TestGithubTemplate
Socorro Milestone 23 scheduled to be released today - very small release https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=802775 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced;target_milestone=23;product=Socorro;list_id=4699213
Community Members Onboarding Syracuse Students https://etherpad.mozilla.org/Mozilla-Syracuse
Upcoming Events Mozilla Festival in the UK Italy Workshop Event - October 20-21 in Turin
Testdays (ashughes) Automation Development is planning a testday for November Schedule is pretty wide-open, please propose testday topics ASAP so we can have some activity through the quarter 2nd of November - Firefox for Android Beta 17
Video Work No update this week
Community Members Onboarding ashughes will be meeting with David Humphrey @ Seneca College next week to discuss ideas about bringing students into QA
Automation Development (Henrik, Dave)
General [rwood] Started wiki page for WebAPI tests [henrik] First webrtc mochitest and crashtests landed on mozilla-central [henrik] Had a talk last Thursday about Mozilla and his own history in the project at his former school with about 60 participants. [henrik] Submitted two proposals for talks at MozCamp Asia https://wiki.mozilla.org/MozCampAsia2012/How_to_build_quality_open_web_apps https://wiki.mozilla.org/MozCampAsia2012/Using_Automated_Testing_to_Get_Involved_With_Desktop_and_Mobile
MozTrap (Cameron) [camd] - Completed implementation of performance fix for editing suites and suite / case ordering support when editing and running test runs. [camd] talked to stephend about then writing some selenium tests to test the ordering features. I owe him a set of test cases. [rbillings] did some testing on the ordering and performance [camd] implementing more performance tweaks and feedback from carljm and jonnygm Talked to tchung about "User Stories" support in MozTrap. For now, they will use tags to mark test cases with the id of the User Story.
Community Members Onboarding
Basecamp Roundtable/Discussion Items
[jsmith] Rethinking and reflecting on the plan of attack for testing [jsmith] 3rd party preloaded apps - what is Mozilla QA doing here? [jsmith] Balancing of basecamp testing vs. other testing on other important areas (desktop and android) [jsmith] Coordinated approach to platform webapi and general issues [marcia] Dealing with influx of new unagi bugs from the dogfooding crowd Suggest a daily email with the known issues [tony] - dclarke will be driving a B2G performance and stability discussion with interested parties. ping him if you'd like to participate news thread: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mozilla.dev.gaia/NnmCpJ4aNbA/discussion
Other Roundtable/Discussion Items
[tracy] Continue with community building efforts Respond to contribute emails Point volunteers to current action items In the past week, I've been able to get several people to help with a Sync services-central client train sign-off [jsmith] Updating the QA contribute email to be even more personal - ideas? [jsmith] Opinion - Etherpad or Wiki? [jsmith] Note - need someone to cover for qa manager on-site interview while I'm on PTO [marcia/mbrandt] Update on One and Done event at Mozilla Festival Proposal accepted, Zac leading effort to run session Session will be 3 hours long but can extend longer [marcia] MozCamp Asia - Any other proposals? I suggested repeating the Mobile Web Compatibility session that jason/lawrence did. maybe someone going can use their slides. (affects b2g and Fennec) Automation development https://wiki.mozilla.org/MozCampAsia2012/How_to_build_quality_open_web_apps https://wiki.mozilla.org/MozCampAsia2012/Using_Automated_Testing_to_Get_Involved_With_Desktop_and_Mobile [marcia] Testdays- Getting them advertised early than 2 days before Test Day This happened again last week [marcia] Reminder: We have QA postcards now for Desktop and WebQA.
Notes, Takeaways and Action Items
Rules of Snakes If you see a snake, kill it. Don't play with dead snakes. Every opportunity starts out looking like a snake. Today
Action Items Send feedback to Jason regarding this: [jsmith] Updating the QA contribute email to be even more personal - ideas?
Action Items Juan: link to QA wiki on the front of QMO
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