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SeaMonkey Meeting Details


  • Who's taking minutes? -> mcsmurf
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • jcranmer for fixing/repairing the comm-central build system when it breaks

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.




Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • We are perma-red and perma-orange on comm-central and comm-aurora due to not having a recent enough version of Python (or if we do, the build scripts aren't finding them).
    • On trunk Linux and OSX trunk builds are perma-red. Windows en-US builds are being successfully compiled but tests are not working due to a dependency on python 2.7.3.
    • bug 908090 ImportError: No module named json, on SeaMonkey Linux/Windows (all) test runs, due to (still) using Python 2.5. We do have python 2.7 installed but our build system is picking up python 2.5 instead.
    • pymake is failing with "invalid syntax" again because of an outdated Python.
    • Priority on fixing this and l10n repacks after 2.22 release.(ETA 29th October 2013)
  • No langpacks since 29th August on trunk. Needs investigating.
    • Windows and Mac trunk langpacks directories have been removed on the FTP server, maybe for lack of recent XPIs (later than 2.20a1). Latest Linux langpacks are dated 29 August. Callek told Tonymec on IRC he has a hunch about why but more pressing things to do first.
    • In Bug 902876 Comment 12 Mcsmurf is waiting for feedback from the build team on how to proceed.
    • Trunk, Aurora and Beta TBPLs are far more orange (or even red) than green; at the top of Aurora and Beta TBPLs there is a link to bug 870207 which is RESOLVED WONTFIX since June. SeaMonkey::RelEng bug 884454 has been opened as a followup.
  • bug 930981 breaks building of SeaMonkey/Chatzilla on trunk, should be fixed soon
  • Buildmaster is up and running.
    • Callek is hand-approving requests for CLOSED TREE landings until he gets things stable enough to reopen the tree.
  • bug 740633 set up seamonkey HPs in scl3. Hardware installed and iLO configured. CentOS 6.3 installed.
  • comm-* will be building out of mozilla-* eventually (bug 648979 etc.). Jcrammer is working on this.

Release Train

  • SeaMonkey 2.22 beta 1 has been released on October 21, 2013.
  • SeaMonkey 2.22 beta 2 has been released on October 25, 2013.
  • SeaMonkey 2.22 final is expected to be released October 29, 2013.

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

  • Featured Theme: GNOMErunner/GTK Revived by Exalm. This is a continuation of GNOMErunner/GTK theme that works with SeaMonkey 2.19 Preview Image
    • 109046.png
  • Featured extension: Lightbird by Exalm .This provides a standalone calendar UI for Lightning. So you'll need to have Lightning installed as well.
    • Ratty is in discussions with the author to see if any of his code can be ported to the Seamonkey integration code in Lightning.
    • 113632.png.
  • Future hosting/support of add-ons for non-Firefox applications on AMO apparently is in question:
  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings
  • bug 888478 DOM Inspector could not be installed.
    • The Windows version of SeaMonkey 2.21 is affected but not Linux. The install.rdf is missing in affected builds. The last SeaMonkey 2.23 nightly build (before uplift to 2.24) does not seem to be affected possibly because of the other build changes during that cycle (bug 914560).
  • There are now Lightning versions for both SM 2.20 (Lightning 2.5b2) and SM 2.21 betas (Lightning 2.6b1) available on AMO.
    • Might need to point out in release notes that users needs to install the Lightning beta versions for the SeaMonkey releases (as Lightning follows Thunderbird 17.0.x release schedule)
    • Problem: Linking to will provide users with versions that do not put them on the addons beta update channel; also linking to a specific version would need updating with every release
    • Linking to does not jump to the correct page position as loads the user comments for the addon after pageload. So it first moves to the correct position (page anchor) and after that it loads the user comments
  • Our build team needs to automate DOMI branch selection rather than having to tweak the every 6 weeks. bug 763506
  • Some discussion on the new marketplace addons page happened; it's not clear yet where SeaMonkey and Thunderbird addons will be hosted in the future (probably not on the new marketplace page)
  • Tb/Sm QuickFolders development version 3.12beta2 released 2013-09-18 includes among other things "numerous SeaMonkey bugfixes" which aren't yet in the "stable" version 3.12 — or in the beta1 for that matter. Since then a beta3 has already been issued, and on September 25 a "3.12.1 maintenance release with important bugfixes" whose release notes don't explicitly mention SeaMonkey (but the same "SeaMonkey bugfixes" are probably included).
  • Beta version 3.7pre20131013 of Nightly Tester Tools (supporting display of both mozilla-central and comm-central changesets) has been released just before the meeting. A release 3.7 seems imminent. Stay tuned to this channel, more news will appear as we get them.

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

  • [From a previous meeting:] There is a problem with the metrics server, so no current data is available
  • See Basics page for the usual reminders.


open tracking (0) tracking requests (0) targeted (0) fixed (16)


  • Current issues:
    • [MailNews] Multiple issues with HTML signatures have been reported. SeaMonkey 2.21 and Thunderbird 24.0 are experiencing fallout from making signatures opaque (bug 855135, bug 855684). Printing of signatures is broken (bug 920997). This was caused by Core bug 700003. Some Thunderbird users don't like their entire signature being grayed out (bug 917906). Some signatures may be grayed more than once (bug 929006, bug 931484).
      • All fixed!
  • Current breakages:
    • [mozilla-central] bug 856270 Update nsEditorSpellCheck to use nsIContentPrefService2.
      • This broke comm-central in various ways:
      • Core bug 887010 InlineSpellChecker.addDictionaryListToMenu fails if called straight after InlineSpellChecker.enabled is set to true (and no async work around).
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Note: Please file bugs if you notice any landing on mozilla-central that might break us. Please don't depend on Ratty noticing such landings.
    • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
    • bug 831208 (asyncContentPrefsUse) Refactor asyncContentPrefs consumers to use the async API. Tracked in:
      • bug 909093 Update SeaMonkey to use nsIContentPrefService2. Mcsmurf is currently working on this.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • bug 793634 Force builds to be compatible with gtk 2.18/glib 2.22. Tracked in:
    • bug 795144 default --disable-gnomeui icon theme support
      • porting bug needed for the two changesets? Changes could be folded into bug 794772 above. *** IanN and Ewong are looking into this..
    • bug 627699 Port GTK2 to GTK3. Tracked in:
      • bug 882036 Port GTK2 to GTK3 - SeaMonkey Part.
      • A Red Hat person seems to be working on the GTK3 integration.
    • bug 846635 Use asynchronous getCharsetForURI in getShortcutOrURI. bug 834543 Add asynchronous version of setCharsetForURI and getCharsetForURI. Tracked in:
      • bug 896947 Use asynchronous version of setCharsetForURI and getCharsetForURI in getShortcutOrURI and other places.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned.

Feature List, Planning

Private Browsing is now working and uplifted to SeaMonkey 2.19. Currently we are treating this feature as Experimental because although most things are working some edge cases have probably been missed. Hopefully any remaining bugs will be found before we formally announce.

  • Testing would be appreciated! Please file bugs as blocking the meta bug 460895.
  • TODO The about:privatebrowsing page needs UI polish (bug 842439).

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 18 new, 12 fixed, 10 triaged.

  • Medium triaging effort.

Open reviews/flags: 23 review 7 super-review 2 ui-review 6 feedback

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).





  • bug 607776 Make the default for shipped-locales work for non-browser apps.
  • bug 812981 Put up snippets for linux64 minor and major updates to SeaMonkey 2.19 and Beta to current Beta of SeaMonkey.
  • bug 827178 Update stage.m.o cron to match recent changes with ffxbld cron.
  • bug 845844 Deploy updated tbpl to
  • bug 884454 Bring up sea-master1 with puppet.
  • bug 890429 SeaMonkey master failing to upload log files.


  • Fixed:
    • bug 918853 - Existing Thunderbird profile is no longer offered for import in a first-run situation
  • Checkin-needed:

  • Review:
    • bug 507676 - Port |Bug 435804 - Remaining rdf cleanup for FilterListDialog| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 840427 - Migrate SeaMonkey builders to using mock
    • bug 853720 - After bug 827446, SeaMonkey doesn't know mozcrash.
    • bug 864291 - Remove "Personas" from UI and Help
  • Working On:
    • bug 110904 - attach signature fails silently on bad paths
    • bug 507676 - Port |Bug 435804 - Remaining rdf cleanup for FilterListDialog| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 837649 - [Tracking Bug] Stop OSX 10.5 support for SeaMonkey project
    • bug 837650 - Stop support for OSX 10.5 in suite/ tree
    • bug 863747 - Add option to disable Location bar history
    • bug 900422 - Debug Preferences should handle nglayout.debug.paint_flashing_chrome
  • To Do:


  • Some testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Fixed:
  • Pending check in:
  • Checked in pending review:
    • bug 921605 Shortcut key for the Inspector was changed in Firefox 25 and needs to be updated and pluginNotification.width change
  • Waiting for feedback/review:
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
    • bug 778534 Use image instead of html:img in instant messaging
  • Working on:
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with --enable-tests.




  • Testing/reviewing of bug 920677 Click-to-play plugins fail to show placeholder after resizing
  • Lots of build problem testing/fixing




Fixed on comm-central, needs possible comm-beta approval:

  • bug 920677 Click-to-play plugins fail to show placeholder after resizing.

Fixed on comm-aurora:

  • bug 914611 Inconsistent references to plugin placeholder elements.

Fixed on comm-aurora and comm-beta:

  • bug 902312 Tabbed mail in 3-pane window does no longer observe browser.tabs.autoHide for display of single tabs.

Fixed on mozilla-central:

  • bug 906920 Implement additional toolkit features in XPFE autocomplete widget.
So now you get favicons in URLbar autocomplete!

Waiting for review:

Still waiting for review:

  • bug 909093 Update SeaMonkey to use nsIContentPrefService2.


  • bug 920947 Need to remove plugin doorhanger when last CTP plugin is removed from document.
Apparently this breaks Google Earth even more than it used to. Also I didn't get around to landing it and requesting aurora and beta approval so it missed the release.
Instead you can view the web console remotely once you enable the built-in debugger. Now with full review!



  • The hard disk in my Toshiba died and took all my patch queues with it. I have backups but I need to reinstall VS2010 and otherwise set up a build environment on my Lenovo notebook. I hope to have things up and running by next week.


Fixed on trunk, aurora, and beta:

  • bug 920997 Printing of signature is broken, positioning of signature in document subject to bogus offset and cropping.

Fixed on trunk and aurora, waiting for beta approval:

  • bug 931484 Apply transparency rule to signatures only once even if they are nested.

Working on:

  • bug 842439 about:privatebrowsing needs some UI polish.



  • Bug triage, testing, and commenting for SeaMonkey and MailNews Core.
  • End-user information and discussion on MozillaZine.





ASSIGNED (waiting for review)

  • bug 112578 (enh) search mails window : search subfolders should remember last state

Any other business?