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SeaMonkey Meeting Details


  • Who's taking minutes? -> mcsmurf
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • -

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.



  • has not been updated since November 2012, the last version listed is 2.14 (bug 956561); move blog to if possible Assigned: mcsmurf.
    • blog account has been created in bug 973886
    • Callek has imported old blogs from mozillazine
    • some sprucing / branding needs to happen next
  • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager
    • mcsmurf will look into this


Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • Buildmaster is up and running.
    • Due to the master having some mysql issues, Callek has put a halt on the mysql updates, which affects the tbpl. So nothing is showing in tbpl atm.
  • comm-* will be building out of mozilla-* (bug 648979 etc.). Jcrammer has completed the coding. The decision to merge c-c into m-c has been kicked down the road into the next quarter or two.
    • Recent work on this:
    • bug 1040009 .mozconfig configure options are ignored if objdir path is absolute
    • bug 1035599 Pseudo-merge m-c and c-c's objdir
  • [1st September 2014]
    • All Linux64 machines(except the buildbot master) have decided to go on strike/AWOL/whatever. (Not good, obviously, but not something Callek or ewong can do until DCOps kickstart them, and since Monday is a holiday, it'll be after Tuesday before anything's done.) bug 1058385 Ergo, All trees are closed.
      • w0ts0n from #it took a look at sea-hp-linux64-9 and said it had a 'Disk error'. (Again, not good. In fact, exactly the same situation as sea-hp-linux64-2.)
    • Thankfully, the last slave (-13) went AWOL *after* the 2.29b2 release. (If it was going to go AWOL, after release would be the best time; of course, *not going AWOL* would've been preferential.)
    • Buildbotcustom/config release code is still being tweaked to get release done.
  • [19th August 2014 update]
    • All available linux64 machines are up and running buildbot (CentOS 6.5)
    • Current round of changes have been reviewed and landed.
    • One final round about to be reviewed.
      • The following are 'old' info being kept as a reference:[these entries will be removed with the next Status Meeting]
        • Migrating our Linux builders to CentOS 6 bug 795354. Puppetmaster has been updated. Ewong is able to login to these hosts and buildbot is installed. We still need to get everything setup for parity and do some slight tweaks to the puppet config, but we're pretty close to useable.
        • In Progress: 2.28 beta and final will depend on build system working again for Gecko 31.0
        • bug 983536 libpango version >= 1.22.0 required on Linux.(should be fixed when bug 795354 is fixed).
        • bug 977676 SeaMonkey's puppet broken due to requirement of ffxbld ldap password.
        • bug 943740 is tracking the progress (or lack of one) in building trunk and aurora on Linux & Mac from the downloading user's POV.
        • bug 840426 tracks the buildbot-config and buildbotcustom code changes to support Mock on our linux* slaves.
        • bug 853720 tracks the builders not recognizing mozcrash. (Not exactly sure if it's relevant still, since our builders have been so perma-red for some time; but putting this here just in case.)
    • We are perma-orange on comm-central, comm-aurora and comm-beta due to problems with tests
      • Windows en-US builds are being successfully compiled but tests are not working due to a dependency on python 2.7.3.
  • pymake has been discontinued. We need to install the latest Mozilla-build and tooltool on our windows builders (tracked by bug 1023644 )
  • No langpacks since 29th August 2013 on trunk. Needs investigating.
    • Windows and Mac trunk langpacks directories have been removed on the FTP server, maybe for lack of recent XPIs (later than 2.20a1). Latest Linux langpacks are dated 29 August. Callek told Tonymec on IRC he has a hunch about why but more pressing things to do first.
    • In Bug 902876 Comment 12 Mcsmurf is waiting for feedback from the build team on how to proceed.

Release Train

  • SeaMonkey 2.29b1 was released on 27th August 2014.
  • SeaMonkey 2.29b2 was released on 2nd September 2014.
  • The final release will be about a week after the Firefox one, to ensure any major issues have been shaken out.
    • Callek / ewong will post / blog about it soon.
  • Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: Releases Scheduling

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

  • Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey
  • This tool goes a little further beyond simply modifying install.rdf - it also identifies a few more other things in the code that are Firefox or Thunderbird specific and attempts to change them. Of course, not all extensions can be ported so easily to SeaMonkey since there's only so much an automated tool like that can do.

    Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey:

    • There is a long list of Firefox and Thunderbird extensions that have been successfully converted in the Mozillazine thread[1]. Can someone go through the thread and add the list of successful conversions to SeaMonkey/AddonCompat.
  • InvisibleSmiley has been working with the author of Nostalgy to make it work with recent TB/SM versions. The latest, fully compatible version is only available from his homepage though.
  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings
  • Ratty filed bug 957149 to push an updated version of DOMi to to pick up the latest fixes. Depends on:
  • Our build team needs to automate DOMI branch selection rather than having to tweak the every 6 weeks. bug 763506

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

  • [From a previous meeting:] There is a problem with the metrics server, so no current data is available
  • See Basics page for the usual reminders.


open tracking (0) tracking requests (1) targeted (0) fixed (30)


open tracking (0) tracking requests (1) targeted (0) fixed (16)


  • Stalled. Needs a kick.
    • bug 937809 Add DuckDuckGo to the default search engines list.
    • bug 815954 Click-to-Play: Port bug 812562 (click-to-play blocklisted plugins: reshow urlbar notification as with normal click-to-play).
    • bug 476108 GetShortPathNameW fails under some NTFS junctions [patchlove].
  • Current breakages:
    • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager needs an owner
    • bug 995737 adapt seamonkey for the ab remote content policy change; use permission manager instead of address book property.
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Our front end Sync UI needs to be updated as the old backend is going away in Gecko/Firefox 31. See: New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly. Tracked in:
      • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
      • bug 1003434 Add support for about:sync-progress.
    • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • bug 793634 Force builds to be compatible with gtk 2.18/glib 2.22. Tracked in:
      • bug 795354 Migrate SeaMonkey Linux builders to CentOS 6.
    • bug 846635 Use asynchronous getCharsetForURI in getShortcutOrURI. bug 834543 Add asynchronous version of setCharsetForURI and getCharsetForURI. Tracked in:
      • bug 896947 Use asynchronous version of setCharsetForURI and getCharsetForURI in getShortcutOrURI and other places.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 27 new, 14 fixed, 5 triaged.

  • Low triaging effort.

Open reviews/flags: 30 review 6 super-review 1 ui-review 5 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
  • TODO: We will need to update our Sync UI code due to the new Sync API. Also we need to check if we are allowed to create FX accounts from our UI Since the new Sync accounts are FX accounts.[IanN] I'm sure I saw a question about FX accounts and branding.

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).




  • Mainly concentrated on getting the buildbotcustom/config stuff done to get the releases out.
  • Ergo, I might have fixed some bugs; but I'm completely lost as to what I've done and haven't done.
  • so for the very first time, I don't have an update but this entry isn't empty; whereas the last time, it was empty.


  • Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Fixed
  • Fixed for c-c:
    • bug 1047981 Port |bug 1047924 - When building with ac_add_options --enable-extensions extensions are put expanded into the wrong location in dist/bin| to comm-central
    • bug 1049800 Package extensions into xpis
    • bug 1052943 Move additions to C*FLAGS into and do not link against the static RTL
    • bug 1052948 Port |bug 968642 Port RCFILE and RESFILE to| to im
    • bug 1053444 Remove MOZ_APP_COMPONENT_MODULES from comm-central
    • bug 1054526 Move LDFLAGS / WIN32_EXE_LDFLAGS out of Makefiles for c-c
    • bug 1054536 Port *FLAG and related changes to
    • bug 1054727 TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | | build file copies are not in sync, port mozconfig.cache and changes from m-c to c-c
    • bug 1057478 Port bug 899585 modifying nsIAlertsService to mailnews
  • Fixed for m-c:
  • Fixed for m-i:
  • Pending check in:
    • bug 1039003 Port |bug 633773 Use Google's HTTPS search by default|, |bug 958883 Use HTTPS for Yahoo searches| and search plugin parts of |bug 959576 Create a component to get the list of priority domains| to Thunderbird
    • bug 1055867 Move RCFLAGS and RCINCLUDE to and hardcode manifest name
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Waiting for feedback/review:
    • bug 882968 Clean up and move DEFINES and friends to in comm-central
    • bug 1060848 Static-link the CRT into SeaMonkey executable (/suite/app/ Port bug 1023941 Part 1
    • bug 1060959 comm-central/configure: line 544: test: : integer expression expected
    • bug 1061011 Do not package .mkdir.done in XPIs
    • bug 1061029 Port |bug 815219 - Default to building with all available cores| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 1061336 Do not source mozconfig.common multiple times in linux in-tree mozconfigs
    • bug 1061341 Port |bug 895248 - Move --enable-stdcxx-compat in build/unix/mozconfig.linux| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 1061348 Port |bug 575283 - Cleanup mozconfig files on all platforms| to SeaMonkey
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
  • Working on:
    • bug 1060897 Static-link the CRT into Instantbird executable (/im/app/ Port bug 1023941 Part 1
    • bug 1051642 Allow for flat chrome format when packaging extensions
    • bug 943335 [TB] Update icons used in searchplugins (Yahoo, eBay, Wikipedia, Amazon, Bing, Twitter)
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with --enable-tests.




  • nothing this time




Checked in to comm-central:

Checked in to comm-central and comm-aurora:

Checked in to comm-beta:

  • bug 934492 Adjust the preference panes for the removal of the charset data source.

Backed out from comm-beta:

Checked in to mozilla-central:

  • bug 1053420 Improve new nsTArray rvalue reference methods.
  • bug 1054289 Scroll to new anchor if changed during document load.
  • bug 1059707 Don't print a deprecation warning for theme XBL documents.
  • bug 1058436 Don't use new xulstore in safe mode.

Still waiting for review:



Just back from a holiday. Currently recovering from jet-lag.





Any other business?


  • [Ratty] KaiRo reminded us that we need to grow our contributor community. Perhaps we can get some Engagement experts from Mozilla to give us some suggestions?
    • [IanN] might have a chat with some people and see if they can point me in the right direction.
    • Should take this one to the mailing lists