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SeaMonkey Meeting Details


  • Who's taking minutes? -> Ratty
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • TBD

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.



  • Official SeaMonkey Blog: Some progress with the SSL certificate issue. With the certificate, things would work easier as mcsmurf wants to sync the blog with Facebook entries.
  • bug 1057920 SeaMonkey's CVS dependency really should be removed. (currently used only for Releng Automation, and SeaMonkey Website).
    • This has been spun off into a separate bugs for the website and the rest. Ewong is poking at things related to Release Automation.
    • For the website it looks like we'll be going mercurial rather than svn (as that is the way the mozilla people would prefer it too).


  • The good news is that we're getting donations through via the new SeaMonkey specific donation page.
    • Need to advertise on the support newsgroup, SeaMonkey Blog, Facebook, etc.

Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • Windows nightly trunk builds arewere running again briefly (thanks to Callek and Ewong) but are down again due to bug 1108970. Migrating our Windows builders to VS2013 would likely solve this and other bustages.
  • VS2010 support was removed from mozilla-central on 15th December (bug 1092468). Our Windows slaves are in the process of being upgraded to Win2008 and VS2013 (bug 1114876). There are also some upcoming changes to L10n build system in Q1 2015 (bug 1107635).
  • Buildmaster is up and running, and produces en-US builds, see 9/16 meeting's Friends of the Fish Tank. Builds and langpacks in 18 languages including en-US are available unofficially thanks to A.Kalla. Edit: However, only 9 languages are published daily for trunk there, and en-GB is not one of them. For Aurora I didn't check. — Tonymec (talk) 16:49, 21 January 2015 (PST)
  • bug 1083689 Langpacks aren't updated when auto-updating SeaMonkey. The langpacks need strict versioning e.g. min 2.30 max 2.30.* which makes sense since you don't want 2.29 strings with 2.30. This is possibly a build config problem so we should check with Callek, ewong, or KaiRo. KaiRo has a patch on hand.
    • The de and en-GB langpacks for 2.30 have:
      2.22 had:
    • [IanN and RSX11M] There was a change in one of the scripts that generates the language pack files (the underlying issue was truncated version numbers introduced by Firefox) so it needs to be adjusted to take SeaMonkey into account.
  • Due to the master having some mysql issues, Callek has put a halt on the mysql updates, which affects the tbpl. So nothing is showing in TBPL atm.
  • [17th March 2015]
    • Windows nightly, aurora and beta builds are broken. Will be fixed by upgrading to Windows Server 2K8 and Visual Studio 2013 (bug 1114876).
    • All Trees
      • OSX64:
        • Build - Orange : bug 958812 - References of firefox.dmg hard-coded in Mozharness tests.
    • [comm-central]
      • Linux*: l10n nightly and l10n dep are running again (patch applied manually to buildbotcustom code)
  • See RelEng page for the RelEng status history.
  • In Bug 902876 Comment 12 Mcsmurf is waiting for feedback from the build team on how to proceed.

Release Train

  • SeaMonkey 2.33 final was released on 10 March.
    • Norton reports installer/updater as "SONAR" virus [1].
    • Not available from the SUSE nor Fedora repositories yet.
  • Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: Releases Scheduling
    • next merge day is 6 April

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings
  • AMO and addon-signing. All addons will have to be signed, uploaded to AMO then reviewed by AMO editors including extensions not hosted on AMO. Otherwise they'll be disabled. TL;DR: SeaMonkey and Thunderbird will not implement mandatory extension signing. Discussion in mozilla.addons.user-experience
  • Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey
    This tool goes a little further beyond simply modifying install.rdf - it also identifies a few more other things in the code that are Firefox or Thunderbird specific and attempts to change them. Of course, not all extensions can be ported so easily to SeaMonkey since there's only so much an automated tool like that can do.
  • Lightning 3.8b1 builds are available for SeaMonkey 2.33.
    • reported broken bug 1133663, 3.8b2 released but may not entirely fix the issue [2].
    • Lightning 3.9b1 is available for testing once SM 2.34b1 is out.
  • The Thunderbird team is planning to ship Lightning with Thunderbird. IanN thinks we will want to ship lightning too. We should coordinate with Thunderbird. Related bugs:
    • bug 1130854 Package Lightning with Thunderbird for c-c and c-a builds.
    • bug 1113183 Integrate Lightning Into Thunderbird by Default.
    • bug 1130852 Add opt-in dialog to promote Calendar integration [Thunderbird].
  • Proposed replacement for Venkman for shipping with SeaMonkey: Tiny JavaScript Debugger. TinyJSD is a JavaScript debugger for privileged code running Mozilla products like Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey. It serves to debug the application as well as extensions written in JavaScript.
    • IanN filed bug 1133723 Investigate options for replacing Venkman with the TinyJSDebugger.
  • Our build team needs to automate DOMI branch selection rather than having to tweak the every 6 weeks. bug 763506

2.x (Last, Current, Next)


open tracking (0) tracking requests (0) targeted (0) fixed (20)


  • Stalled. Needs a kick.
    • bug 815954 Click-to-Play: Port bug 812562 (click-to-play blocklisted plugins: reshow urlbar notification as with normal click-to-play).
    • bug 476108 GetShortPathNameW fails under some NTFS junctions [patchlove].
  • Current breakages:
    • bug 995737 adapt seamonkey for the address book remote content policy change; use permission manager instead of address book property.
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Firefox is currently changing styles of several Toolkit pages
      • already affected: config.xul for about:config, bug 1125636
      • Toolkit meta bug for about:* pages: bug 1097111 - SeaMonkey tracking in bug 1133743
      • Modern may need updating as IDs are changing, Default needs forking if we want to roll back to previous styles
      • Fallout thus far: bug 1133380 about:privatebrowsing (Default), bug 1133582 about:config (Modern)
    • Our front end Sync UI needs to be updated as the old backend is going away in Gecko/Firefox 31. See: New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly. Tracked in:
      • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
      • bug 1003434 Add support for about:sync-progress.
      • Update SeaMonkey won't be allowed to use the Firefox Sync 1.5 servers. Ewong is looking into hosting our own FxAccount server on a community machine or VPS.
    • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • The C++ downloads manager backend nsIDownloadManager is being decommissioned. Firefox has migrated to jsdownloads. Thunderbird is in the process of migrating. We need to decide how we are going to handle this sooner rather than later.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 41 new, 14 fixed, 14 triaged.

  • Low triaging effort, higher than average number of new bugs filed.
  • IanN thinks it would be useful to remind people on the newsgroups / forums that they can contribute by triaging. Tonymec will post a reminder to newsgroups / forums. See bug 1092632 (Sm_tri_HowTo) Document how to triage SeaMonkey bugs.
    • The draft is currently at
    • Progress is stalled due to hardware/firmware problems with Tonymec's current computer. Current ETA for newer computer is after Easter but this is a rough estimate. Anyone with a wikimoz account can edit the page (and is welcome to). — Tonymec (talk) 17:35, 21 January 2015 (PST)

Open reviews/flags: 42 review 5 super-review 4 ui-review 7 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
  • TODO:
    • We will need to update our Sync UI code due to the new Sync API. MoCo will not allow us to use FxAccounts (the new Sync API). We might want to update our code anyway just in case. One possibility is to set up our own Sync 1.5 server on a Community machine.
    • Bug 1127784 proposes to add a preference and UI to enable/disable playback of Encrypted Media Extensions.

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).




  • Fixed:
    • bug 1048872 - L10n builds broken on comm-central (34.0a1 builds)
    • bug 1120067 - RSS (2.0?) feeds not updating and not being added.
    • bug 1129276 - Update HG on Windows slaves.
    • bug 1133428 - L10n repackages should survive searchplugins missing, even if listed in list.txt
    • bug 1135336 - convert makefile rules in MailNews with to use GENERATED_FILES
    • bug 1137054 - fix mailnews bustage due to changes from bug 1136388 (edit)
    • bug 1137110 - inspector rev in is using the wrong rev in comm-beta
  • Review:
    • bug 110904 - attach signature fails silently on bad paths
    • bug 840427 - Migrate SeaMonkey builders to using mock
    • bug 853720 - After bug 827446, SeaMonkey doesn't know mozcrash.
    • bug 863747 - Add option to disable Location bar history
    • bug 902876 - No SeaMonkey langpacks (or localized builds) since 26th July 2013.
    • bug 922076 - Switch tests to using and manifests
    • bug 1022563 - Don't use --enable-trace-malloc on SeaMonkey debug desktop tinderbox builds
    • bug 1038081 - When reading an attached eml file in a message window, the Reply button doesn't work.
    • bug 1047715 - suite's in-tree mozconfigs need changing to support Mock
    • bug 1047975 - Re-enable gstreamer, pulseaudio in mozconfigs
    • bug 1050597 - Remove leaktests from SeaMonkey buildbotconfigs/custom code.

  • Working On:
    • concentrating on the buildbotmaster code.


  • Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Fixed:
  • Fixed for c-c:
  • Fixed for m-c:
  • Fixed for m-i:
  • Pending check in:
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Waiting for feedback/review/information:
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
  • Working on:
    • bug 1051642 Allow for flat chrome format when packaging extensions
    • bug 943335 [TB] Update icons used in searchplugins (Yahoo, eBay, Wikipedia, Amazon, Bing, Twitter)
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with --enable-tests.







Checked in to comm-central, needs comm-aurora uplift:

  • bug 1140640 Make From: header editable per-message.
  • bug 1133582 Warning box in about:config doesn't display properly in Modern any more.
  • bug 1133380 about:privatebrowsing doesn't display properly in Classic any more.

Working on:

  • bug 1140105 Wrong font displayed in font menu when selection is collapsed.
  • bug 1141017 Wrong font is sometimes displayed in font menulist.

Still waiting for review:

  • bug 1098350 Need to refactor SeaMonkey Preferences and UI because bug 530209 replaced the browser.urlbar.default.behavior preference with a more flexible scheme.
  • bug 970993 Aero Peek rendering issues.



Needs review;

  • bug 1133355 The Properties button and context menuitem should be disabled when multiple cards are selected.


  • bug 1072751 Switch SeaMonkey from xpinstall.whitelist.add to using a default permissions file.
  • bug 1122934 Followup to bug 1074021: Tidy up and sync with Firefox nsBrowserApp.
  • bug 1133212 (SeaMonkey) Moving emails from Search Box Results to other folders creates duplicate emails and/or phantom mail, because oncommand is placed in <menupopup type="folder"> instead of in a container <menu> of the menupopup.
  • bug 1133228 Address book search box should have flexible width.
  • bug 1135604 Add MOZ_SAFE_BROWSING to and minor updates.


Partial backout needed on comm-aurora and comm-beta.

  • bug 1115572 Add newChannel2 (that takes loadinfo as an argument) to suite protocol handlers

Working on:


  • bug 1134234 resource://app/modules/gloda/mimemsg.js should be resource:///modules/gloda/mimemsg.js in /mail/test/mozmill/shared-modules/test-message-helpers.js.
  • bug 1132218 Update comm-central for PLDHashTable changes in bug 1131901.
  • File followup Bug to to investigate the remaining callers from bug 1134891 .


  • bug 795002 Improve detection of valid feed urls in messengerdnd.js (Port relevant bits of bug 737115).
  • bug 1122906 First right-click on textarea shows huge contextmenu. [Needs Linux user to help test].

Other stuff:

  • Did some reviews and approvals.
  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.


Waiting for checkin:

Waiting for reviews:

  • bug 1127784 [EME] Add a preference and UI to enable/disable playback of Encrypted Media Extensions.
    • needs a branch patch after last week's merge given that 2.35 is affected already (pref definition only).
  • bug 1137991 Remove SSLv3 option from SSL panel in Privacy & Security panel.
  • bug 1139004 Rename all "Character Encoding" to "Text Encoding" in Help content (Toolkit bug 951695).


  • bug 1141324 Upgrade the SSL panel in Privacy & Security preferences to refer to TLS {instead,too}.


  • bug 1032302 8BITMIME keyword ignored in EHLO greeting, BODY=8BITMIME absent in MAIL request for 8-bit transfers. (MailNews)


  • Bug triage, testing, and commenting for SeaMonkey and MailNews Core.
  • End-user information and discussion on MozillaZine.




Any other business?

  • New review policy for packaging fixes ( Due to the general unavailability of the team members who usually review these changes (mcsmurf, Callek), Ratty will be available for reviewing packaging fixes or do them himself with a rs=packaging fix..
  • European Summer Time begins on the 29th March, thus, moving from 13:00 to 12:00 UTC already on 31st March.