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→‎names of speakers: noted citation inline
(→‎names of speakers: reposted counter-arguments and follow-ups to WHATWG wiki)
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** see: http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Cite#Speaker
** see: http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Cite#Speaker
** provide follow-ups / answers to the common arguments given against restoring cite for speakers (now reposted to WHATWG wiki as well - http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Cite_element#Counter-arguments )
** provide follow-ups / answers to the common arguments given against restoring cite for speakers (now reposted to WHATWG wiki as well - http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Cite_element#Counter-arguments )
*** "The purpose of <nowiki><cite></nowiki> was to create a semantic-looking alias for <nowiki><i></nowiki> in order to cater for Chicago Manual of Style-compliant italicized titles of work."
*** "The purpose of <nowiki><cite></nowiki> was to create a semantic-looking alias for <nowiki><i></nowiki> in order to cater for Chicago Manual of Style-compliant italicized titles of work." - [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/html-wg/20070607#l-797 citation: DanC in IRC] [[User:Hsivonen|Hsivonen]] 11:59, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
**** There is no evidence that was the precise design intent of the cite element (i.e. citation needed).
*****[http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/html-wg/20070607#l-797 citation] [[User:Hsivonen|Hsivonen]] 11:59, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
**** This also sounds like an argument from "theoretical purity" or at best "specifiers", whereas the current usage evidence shows that "authors" have seen fit to purpose cite for speakers, and thus per the [http://www.w3.org/TR/html-design-principles/#priority-of-constituencies priority of constituencies HTML design principle] which prefers authors over specifiers over theoretical purity, we should restore cite for speakers.
**** This also sounds like an argument from "theoretical purity" or at best "specifiers", whereas the current usage evidence shows that "authors" have seen fit to purpose cite for speakers, and thus per the [http://www.w3.org/TR/html-design-principles/#priority-of-constituencies priority of constituencies HTML design principle] which prefers authors over specifiers over theoretical purity, we should restore cite for speakers.
*** "Since speakers aren't italicized typically, using <nowiki><cite></nowiki> for them doesn't really make sense. "
*** "Since speakers aren't italicized typically, using <nowiki><cite></nowiki> for them doesn't really make sense. "
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