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'''SeaMonkey Meeting Details'''

* Time: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=10&month=6&year=2014&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 10 June, 2014, 12:00 UTC]
** (8am Eastern, 1pm UK, 2pm Central Europe, 8pm Hong Kong)
* Location: [irc://irc.mozilla.org/seamonkey #seamonkey IRC channel]
* Further Read: [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/Basics|Basics]]

== Agenda ==
* Who's taking minutes? -> '''TBD'''
* Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
** '''TBD'''

=== Action Items ===
(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug)
We should assign people to the open items.

'''NEW'''
'''OPEN'''
* http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/seamonkey/ has not been updated since November 2012, the last version listed is 2.14 ({{Bug|956561}}); move blog to blog.mozilla.org if possible '''Assigned: mcsmurf'''.
** Mcsmurf says that it looks like we might be getting a blog on [http://blog.mozilla.com blog.mozilla.com].
** KaiRo will do some DNS magic to get it mirrored at blog.seamonkey-project.org
** {{Bug|973886}} for creating the blog account
* {{Bug|998807}} Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager
** mcsmurf will look into this
'''CLOSED'''
* &mdash;

=== Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree ===
<!--Please update accordingly-->
* '''Callek''' has been working on migrating our Linux builders to CentOS 6 {{Bug|795354}}. [https://etherpad.mozilla.org/seamonkey-hp-puppet-setup Puppetmaster has been updated]. Ewong is able to login to these hosts and buildbot is installed. We still need to get everything setup for parity and do some slight tweaks to the puppet config, but we're pretty close to useable.
** '''the scheduled 2.27 releases is June 10, thus in two weeks (and still no Linux builds)'''
*** '''there is a very high chance that we will be skipping 2.27.'''(will update this when I get more info.-ewong)
* {{Bug|983536}} libpango version >= 1.22.0 required on Linux.
* {{Bug|977676}} SeaMonkey's puppet broken due to requirement of ffxbld ldap password.
* {{Bug|1008596}} wrong extension branches are used on aurora, patch is ready
* Python has been updated on all buildboxen!
* We are perma-orange on comm-central, comm-aurora and comm-beta due to problems with tests
** Windows en-US builds are being successfully compiled but tests are not working due to a dependency on python 2.7.3.
** {{Bug|908090}} ImportError: No module named json, on SeaMonkey Linux/Windows (all) test runs, due to (still) using Python 2.5. We do have python 2.7 installed but our build system is picking up python 2.5 instead.
*** ewong's patch is waiting for review. It was manually patched on the master; but, was reverted and the buildmaster was reconfigured and so the changes are gone. Need to have the patch pushed officially in order for this bug to be fixed.
** pymake is failing with "invalid syntax" again because of an outdated Python.
** Priority on fixing this and l10n repacks after 2.24 release.(No ETA yet)
** {{Bug|943740}} is tracking the progress (or lack of one) in building trunk and aurora on Linux & Mac from the downloading user's POV. (Windows nightlies are still appearing on schedule — or were until a day or two ago.)
* No langpacks since 29th August on trunk. Needs investigating.
** Windows and Mac trunk langpacks directories have been removed on the FTP server, maybe for lack of recent XPIs (later than 2.20a1). Latest Linux langpacks are dated 29 August. Callek told Tonymec on IRC he has a hunch about why but more pressing things to do first.
** In [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=902876#c12 Bug 902876 Comment 12] Mcsmurf is waiting for feedback from the build team on how to proceed.
* Buildmaster is up and running.
** Callek is hand-approving requests for CLOSED TREE landings at the moment.
** Due to the master having some mysql issues, Callek has put a halt on the mysql updates, which affects the tbpl. So nothing is showing in tbpl atm.
* comm-* will be building out of mozilla-* ({{bug|648979}} etc.). Jcrammer has mostly completed the coding. Next step is consultation with mozilla-central build peers on landing the patches and also getting implicit permission to add several new top level directories to mozilla-central.

<!-- ==== Fixed Stuff Since Last Meeting ====
Comment out this section if nothing new fixed-->
==== Fixed Stuff Since Last Meeting ====

=== Release Train ===
* SeaMonkey 2.27 beta 1 is not scheduled yet.
** likely depends on {{Bug|983536}} libpango version >= 1.22.0 required on Linux
* '''It's very likely that we'll skip SeaMonkey 2.27 entirely.'''
* Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: [https://mail.mozilla.com/home/publiccalendar@mozilla.com/Releases%20Scheduling.html Releases Scheduling]

=== Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking ===
* See [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/Basics|Basics]] page. Please only list current changes here.
* [[SeaMonkey/AddonCompat|Addon Compatibility Listings]]
* Ratty filed {{Bug|957149}} to push an updated version of DOMi to [https://addons.mozilla.org addons.mozilla.org] to pick up the latest fixes. Depends on:
** {{Bug|798174}} (DOMi2.0.15) DOM Inspector 2.0.15.
** Mcsmurf asked crusell how he did the releases. [https://wiki.mozilla.org/DOM_Inspector/Releases/Checklist https://wiki.mozilla.org/DOM_Inspector/Releases/Checklist]. IanN says he may take a look at doing this, time permitting.
* Our build team needs to automate DOMI branch selection rather than having to tweak the client.py every 6 weeks. {{Bug|763506}}
* Lightning and addons.mozilla.org:
** Release notes have been updated to tell users how they can find the current Lightning version for SeaMonkey, see {{Bug|984884}}.

=== 2.x (Last, Current, Next) ===
* [From a previous meeting:] There is a problem with the metrics server, so no current data is available
<!--* 2.16 had ~X ADU by Tuesday 12th March and has had ~Y downloads so far.
** Of the released versions, as of Tuesday 12th March, we have A% on 2.0, B% on 2.1-2.3, C% on 2.4-2.6, D% on 2.7-2.9, E% on 2.10-2.12, F% on 2.13, G% on 2.14, H% on 2.15 and I% on 2.16.-->
* See [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/Basics|Basics]] page for the usual reminders.

==== 2.26 ====
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&field0-0-0=cf_tracking_seamonkey226&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=%2B open tracking] (1)
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?&field0-0-0=cf_tracking_seamonkey226&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=%3F tracking requests] (1)
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&target_milestone=seamonkey2.26 targeted] (0)
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?o5=notequals&f1=OP&v6=fixed&o3=equals&list_id=8372932&v3=fixed&resolution=FIXED&o6=notequals&o2=equals&f4=CP&v5=fixed&query_format=advanced&j1=OR&f3=cf_status_seamonkey226&f2=target_milestone&f5=cf_status_seamonkey225&f6=cf_status_seamonkey224&v2=2.26 fixed] (8)
* [http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.26/ SeaMonkey 2.26 Release Notes]

==== 2.Next ====
* Fixed since the last meeting:
** {{Bug|998724}} Feed preview is broken on SeaMonkey nightly.
* Current breakages:
** {{Bug|998807}} Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager needs an owner
** {{Bug|995737}} adapt seamonkey for the ab remote content policy change; use permission manager instead of address book property.
<!-- ** &mdash; ->
<!--Please update-->
* Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
** '''Note:''' Please file bugs if you notice any landing on mozilla-central that might break us. Please don't depend on Ratty noticing such landings.
** {{Bug|910192}} Get rid of intl.charset.default as a localizable pref and deduce the fallback from the locale. Tracked in:
*** {{Bug|934492}} Adjust the languages preference pane to take into account Bug 910192 which removes intl.charset.default and deduces the fallback from the locale.
*** pref-character_encoding.xul is affected. In MailNews folderProps.xul and am-server.xul are also affected. In Thunderbird fonts.xul is broken ({{Bug|1003716}} . In Editor/UI EditorSaveAsCharset.xul is affected.
** Our front end Sync UI needs to be updated as the old backend is going away in Gecko/Firefox 31. See: [http://blog.swarnava.in/2014/02/new-firefox-sync-has-landed-in-firefox.html New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly]. Tracked in:
*** {{Bug|998807}} Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
*** {{Bug|1003434}} Add support for about:sync-progress.
** A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
** {{Bug|566746}} (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
*** {{Bug|912031}} Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
** {{Bug|769764}} move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
*** MailNews {{Bug|791645}} Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
** {{Bug|793634}} Force builds to be compatible with gtk 2.18/glib 2.22. Tracked in:
*** {{Bug|795354}} Migrate SeaMonkey Linux builders to CentOS 6.
*** {{Bug|794772}} Port |{{Bug|713802}} Build with GIO support (and drop GnomeVFS)|. This is dependent on {{Bug|795354}}.
** {{Bug|795144}} default --disable-gnomeui icon theme support
*** porting bug needed for the two configure.in changesets? Changes could be folded into {{Bug|794772}} above. *** ''IanN and Ewong are looking into this.''.
** {{Bug|627699}} Port GTK2 to GTK3. Tracked in:
*** {{Bug|882036}} Port GTK2 to GTK3 - SeaMonkey Part.
*** A Red Hat person seems to be working on the GTK3 integration.
** {{Bug|846635}} Use asynchronous getCharsetForURI in getShortcutOrURI. {{Bug|834543}} Add asynchronous version of setCharsetForURI and getCharsetForURI. Tracked in:
*** {{Bug|896947}} Use asynchronous version of setCharsetForURI and getCharsetForURI in getShortcutOrURI and other places.
** {{Bug|825588}} Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and {{Bug|851471}} Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
*** {{Bug|888915}} Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned.

=== Bugs: Low Hanging Fruit ===
Not necessarily Good First Bugs but minor fixes that shouldn't need advanced coding skills.
* {{Bug|1006052}} Right tabbar scroll button doesn't get disabled when it should.
* Implement Close Tabs to the Right.
Good student projects:
* {{Bug|907733}} Have link-related context menus when you select a text link (like Firefox).
* {{Bug|1011857}} Implement CustomizableUI for SeaMonkey.
* Add ability for new tabs to load a custom page on creation. Implement "browser.newtab.url". Also implement about:newtab as the default new tab page.
''Needs investigation/confirmation/QA wanted?''
* {{Bug|1007012}} LDAP Addressbook query fails with sec_error_untrusted_issuer OR ssl_error_rx_malformed_cert_request.
* {{Bug|1008507}} Moving/copying a thread destroys message order .
* {{Bug|1008728}} Bookmarks menu subfolders don't display if bookmark titles are long.
* {{Bug|1008779}} SeaMonkey 2.26 pdf viewer prints blank page. Things were fine prior to 2.26 release. '''To confirm''' that this is fixed by Core {{Bug|1003707}}.
* {{Bug|1012491}} Some attempts at HTTP requests result in browser hanging. Someone who is familiar with '''debugging on Linux please''' help the person reporting {{Bug|1012491}}.
* {{Bug|1015714}} SeaMonkey doesn't open after having run updater. '''Can anyone reproduce''' this problem on OSX 10.9?

=== Feature List, Planning ===
[http://dev.seamonkey.at/#bugstats Bug statistics] for the last two (full) weeks: 28 new, 14 fixed, 12 triaged.
* Low triaging effort.

[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/chart.cgi?category=-All-&subcategory=-All-&name=1183&label0=SM-with-review%3F-requests&line0=1928&label1=SM-with-superreview%3F-requests&line1=1929&gt=1&labelgt=Grand+Total&datefrom=2009-07-15&dateto=&action-wrap=Chart+This+List Open reviews/flags]:
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&namedcmd=SeaMonkey%20%282%29%20/%20-All-%20/%20SM-with-review%3F-requests&series_id=1928&remaction=runseries 30 review]
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&namedcmd=SeaMonkey%20%282%29%20/%20-All-%20/%20SM-with-superreview%3F-requests&series_id=1929&remaction=runseries 6 super-review]
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkey&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=ui-review%3F 4 ui-review]
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkey&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=feedback%3F 3 feedback]

* See [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/FeatureList|Feature List]] page for major wanted/needed features.
* SeaMonkey needs a debugger for its chrome code. Jez couldn't continue work on {{bug|613974}} because he couldn't figure out a way to debug Seamonkey's JS. He suggest Firebug be modified to allow remote debugging of Seamonkey ({{bug|1006466}}). Bare minimum, have a good tutorial about how to debug Seamonkey chrome from Firefox (couldn't get that to work either) and link it from various Seamonkey developer pages.
** We had some discussion in the meeting if we should look at porting/including the Firefox devtools or rather look into bundling Firebug 2.0
*'''TODO:''' We will need to update our Sync UI code due to the new Sync API. Also we need to check if we are allowed to create FX accounts from our UI Since the new Sync accounts are FX accounts.[IanN] I'm sure I saw a question about FX accounts and branding.

==== Modern Theme rework (Patrick Dempsey) ====
Patrick Dempsey in concentrating on paid work at the moment.

==== Attachment Reminders ====
Suyash Agarwal is working on attachment reminders to SeaMonkey MailNews. {{Bug|984016}} Attachment Reminder: Help prevent forgetting inclusion of attachments (Port TB {{Bug|244455}})

=== Roundtable - Personal Status Updates ===

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).
==== Aqualon ====
==== Callek ====
==== ewong ====
==== IanN ====
==== InvisibleSmiley ====
==== jez ====
==== KaiRo ====
==== mcsmurf ====
==== Misak ====
==== Mnyromyr ====
==== Neil ====
==== Px ====
==== Ratty ====
==== rsx11m ====
Waiting for check-in:
* {{Bug|844098}} Update about:rights content for Safe Browsing based on Toolkit {{bug|514817}} and separate inline scripts.
Waiting for reviews:
* {{Bug|1009233}} Help on mail account settings for authentication method needs updating.
* {{Bug|1015924}} Focus cursor on address bar when opening new private window.
Still waiting for ui-review:
* {{Bug|994093}} Provide toggle for Geolocation service (geo.enabled) in Privacy & Security preference pane.
* {{Bug|998787}} Remove redundant "Don't Share" option from Geolocation doorhanger notification.
* {{Bug|173465}} Add UI for mail/news "network.protocol-handler.external..." preferences.
Other:
* Bug triage, testing, and commenting for SeaMonkey and MailNews Core.
* End-user information and discussion on [http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=51 MozillaZine].

==== sgautherie ====
==== stefanh ====
==== Tobin ====
==== tonymec ====

=== Any other business? ===
Discuss:
* [Ratty] KaiRo reminded us that we need to grow our contributor community. Perhaps we can get some Engagement experts from Mozilla to give us some suggestions?
** [IanN] might have a chat with some people and see if they can point me in the right direction.
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