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Thunderbird meeting notes 2015-09-08. NOON PT (Pacific). For meeting time, previous notes and call-in details see


  • Fallen, mkmelin, rkent, wsmwk, Pegasus_RPG, MakeMyDay, Jorg K, Paenglab

Action items from last meetings

  • Get release documentation into wiki

Friends of the tree

Current status and discussions

Critical Issues

Leave critical bugs here until confirmed fixed. If confirmed, then remove.

  • bug 1197686 - jsmime issues - patch provided (jcranmer's solution)
  • needs assignee after solution identified - bug 1196662 not checking mails after hibernation, caused by core bug 1178890 (and we may be seeing other issues from 1178890, like hangs)
  • aceman is assignee - bug 1183490 - (dataloss) New emails do not adhere to sort by order received
  • status TBD - bug 1182629 - update to 38.1.0 from 38.0.1 re-enables disabled Lightning
  • status TBD - bug 1176399 - Multiple master password when GMail OAuth2 is enabled
  • status ??? - bug 1176748 - Someone needs to add additional main thread proxies to the migration code (jorgk and m_kato have in previous years been the major drivers of fixes)
  • topcrash bug 1149287 is ** 31% of our crashes** - see below

removing from critical list/fixed:

Critical for TB42 and beyond:

  • bug 1193200 - Blocker: Permissions manager/Remote content exceptions - Jorg K and Aceman looking into it.


  • Past
    • 38.0.1 nominally shipped 2015-06-12
    • 38.1.0 shipped 2015-07-10
    • 31.8.0 shipped 2015-07-17
    • 40.0beta shipped 2015-07-27 (skipping 39.0b)
    • 38.2.0 shipped 2015-08-14
  • Upcoming


Past releases:

Upcoming releases:


  • Still need help rewriting SUMO help articles on Lightning
  • Need to fix bug 1194997 for calendars disabling themselves

Round Table

Jorg K

  • bug 772796 - M-C editor problem, TB papercut - ongoing with help of :roc
  • bug 1174452 - M-C editor problem, copy/paste - "white-space: pre;" - currently stalled.
  • bug 717433 and bug 1200533 - M-C spellchecker dictionary problems, r+, will land.
  • bug 1197687 - Font menu again, waiting for Neil/Ian.
  • bug 1193200 - Blocker bug: Content permissions/exceptions: patch proposed, ongoing discussion. Aceman likely to take over.
  • bug 1197686 - jsmime fails on long reference headers: patch prepared, content by Joshua.


  • funding and resourcing changes in next 3-6 months
    • anticipate a new corporate home
    • how to spend money? where to focus hires?
    • what will be the service model? eg ODF


  • Windows 10: will need to encourage users to file bugs and everyone to triage/fix and drive fixes into 38. I run Windows 10 and do not have any problems with Thunderbird 38. Yes trunk has the issue of the window closing, but that is being worked.


I now have a win10 pc available for testing, with Paenglab's XPI

Question Time

Support team


  • Note - meeting notes must be copied from etherpad to wiki before 5AM CET next day so that they will go public in the meeting notes blog.

Action Items

Help Wanted