SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2015-03-17

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SeaMonkey Meeting Details

• Time: 17 March, 2015, 13:00 UTC
  • (9am Eastern, 1pm UK, 2pm Central Europe, 9pm Hong Kong)
    • Daylight Saving Time has begun in North America!
• Location: #seamonkey IRC channel
• Further Read: Basics

Agenda

• Who's taking minutes? -> TBD
• Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
  • TBD

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

• —

OPEN

• Official SeaMonkey Blog: Some progress with the SSL certificate issue. With the certificate, things would work easier as mcsmurf wants to sync the blog with Facebook entries.
• bug 1057920 SeaMonkey's CVS dependency really should be removed. (currently used only for Releng Automation, and SeaMonkey Website).
  • This has been spun off into a separate bugs for the website and the rest. For the website it looks like we'll be going mercurial rather than svn (as that is the way the mozilla people would prefer it too).
  • SeaMonkey RelEng is concentrating on upgrading our Windows build machines to W2008 and Visual Studio 2013.

CLOSED

• bug 1081726 Donation link on website needs to be change to point to SeaMonkey Paypal donation page. [FIXED]
• —

Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

• Windows nightly trunk builds arewere running again briefly (thanks to Callek and Ewong) but are down again due to bug 1108970. Migrating our Windows builders to VS2013 would likely solve this and other bustages.
• VS2010 support was removed from mozilla-central on 15th December (bug 1092468). Our Windows slaves are in the process of being upgraded to Win2008 and VS2013 (bug 1114876). There are also some upcoming changes to L10n build system in Q1 2015 (bug 1107635).
• Buildmaster is up and running, and produces en-US builds, see 9/16 meeting's Friends of the Fish Tank. Builds and langpacks in 18 languages including en-US are available unofficially thanks to A.Kalla. Edit: However, only 9 languages are published daily for trunk there, and en-GB is not one of them. For Aurora I didn't check. — Tonymec (talk) 16:49, 21 January 2015 (PST)
• bug 1083689 Langpacks aren't updated when auto-updating SeaMonkey. The langpacks need strict versioning e.g. min 2.30 max 2.30.* which makes sense since you don't want 2.29 strings with 2.30. This is possibly a build config problem so we should check with Callek, ewong, or KaiRo.
  • The de and en-GB langpacks for 2.30 have:
    <em:minVersion>2.30</em:minVersion><em:maxVersion>2.*</em:maxVersion>
    2.22 had:
    <em:minVersion>2.22</em:minVersion><em:maxVersion>2.22.*</em:maxVersion>
  • [IanN and RSX11M] There was a change in one of the scripts that generates the language pack files (the underlying issue was truncated version numbers introduced by Firefox) so it needs to be adjusted to take SeaMonkey into account.
• Due to the master having some mysql issues, Callek has put a halt on the mysql updates, which affects the tbpl. So nothing is showing in TBPL atm.

• [2nd March 2015]
  • Windows nightly, aurora and beta builds are broken. Will be fixed by upgrading to Windows Server 2K8 and Visual Studio 2013 (bug 1114876).
  • All Trees (Not 100% sure on c-b since it's busted right now)
    • OSX64:
      • Build - Orange : bug 958812 - References of firefox.dmg hard-coded in Mozharness tests.
      • Debug - Red : bug 1137532 - Need to update clang to a newer version.
  • [comm-beta]
    • All Platforms:
      • Patch from bug 1128291 was pushed to DOM-inspector repo, but it only applies (atm) to c-c and c-a. Both c-b and c-r shouldn't use DOM_LATEST_RELEASE tag. The patch from bug 1137110 was pushed to c-b to fix this on c-b. c-r doesn't need fixing as it uses the

right tag.

• See RelEng page for the RelEng status history.
• In Bug 902876 Comment 12 Mcsmurf is waiting for feedback from the build team on how to proceed.

Release Train

• SeaMonkey 2.33 final was released on 10 March.
  • Norton reports installer/updater as "SONAR" virus [1].
• Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: Releases Scheduling
  • next merge day is 6 April

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

• See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
• Addon Compatibility Listings
• AMO and addon-signing. All addons will have to be signed, uploaded to AMO then reviewed by AMO editors including extensions not hosted on AMO. Otherwise they'll be disabled. TL;DR: SeaMonkey and Thunderbird will not implement mandatory extension signing. Discussion in mozilla.addons.user-experience
  • Please see 2/17 meeting notes for details.
• Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/
  This tool goes a little further beyond simply modifying install.rdf - it also identifies a few more other things in the code that are Firefox or Thunderbird specific and attempts to change them. Of course, not all extensions can be ported so easily to SeaMonkey since there's only so much an automated tool like that can do.
  • Ratty filed bug 1130390 to add a link on seamonkey-projects.org to the Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey.
• Lightning 3.8b1 builds are available for SeaMonkey 2.33.
  • reported broken bug 1133663, 3.8b2 released but may not entirely fix the issue [2].
• The Thunderbird team is planning to ship Lightning with Thunderbird. IanN thinks we will want to ship lightning too. We should coordinate with Thunderbird. Related bugs:
  • bug 1130854 Package Lightning with Thunderbird for c-c and c-a builds.
  • bug 1113183 Integrate Lightning Into Thunderbird by Default.
  • bug 1130852 Add opt-in dialog to promote Calendar integration [Thunderbird].
• Proposed replacement for Venkman for shipping with SeaMonkey: Tiny JavaScript Debugger. TinyJSD is a JavaScript debugger for privileged code running Mozilla products like Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey. It serves to debug the application as well as extensions written in JavaScript.
  • IanN filed bug 1133723 Investigate options for replacing Venkman with the TinyJSDebugger.
• Our build team needs to automate DOMI branch selection rather than having to tweak the client.py every 6 weeks. bug 763506

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

• SeaMonkey Statistics can be viewed at https://dataviz.mozilla.org Across all channels we have an approximate ADU of 120k.
  • Ratty suggests embedding these graphs somewhere on seamonkey-projects.org or https://dev.seamonkey.at
  • bug 1133728 Look at embedding dataviz information into the SeaMonkey website.
• See Basics page for the usual reminders.

2.33

open tracking (0) tracking requests (0) targeted (0) fixed (20)

• SeaMonkey 2.33 Release Notes
  • Known Issues: bug 1062297 All saved passwords [apparently] gone after update.
    Mozillazine Firefox thread: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=2864933
    • Workaround 1:
    • Workaround 2:
• There is some confusion about the SSL 3.0 disabling The POODLE Attack and the End of SSL 3.0. Also see bug 1107103 https://wcis.ceiwc.com does not work in Firefox 34 and later.
  • We've picked up he default for security.tls.version.min from Mozilla Core, but security.tls.version.fallback-limit is new. So we need to add the latter to our preferences UI.
  • Anybody having an opinion on this please comment on the bug to track this issue (bug 1123673 Consider exposing security.tls.version.fallback-limit in SSL prefpane to accommodate SSL 3.0 legacy sites).
  • SSL 3.0 support will be deprecated effective with 2.36, see bug 1106470 and IETF Draft.
  • bug 1137991 covers removal of the SSL 3.0 checkbox from SSL preferences
• bug 1114285 Autoscroll problem general.autoScroll does not work in 2.32 beta
  • Fixed in 2.33 by a combination of bug 984037 and backout of bug 938359.

2.Next

• Stalled. Needs a kick.
  • bug 815954 Click-to-Play: Port bug 812562 (click-to-play blocklisted plugins: reshow urlbar notification as with normal click-to-play).
  • bug 476108 GetShortPathNameW fails under some NTFS junctions [patchlove].
• Current breakages:
  • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager needs an owner
  • bug 995737 adapt seamonkey for the address book remote content policy change; use permission manager instead of address book property.
• Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
  • Firefox is currently changing styles of several Toolkit pages
    • already affected: config.xul for about:config, bug 1125636
    • Toolkit meta bug for about:* pages: bug 1097111 - SeaMonkey tracking in bug 1133743
    • Modern may need updating as IDs are changing, Default needs forking if we want to roll back to previous styles
    • Fallout thus far: bug 1133380 about:privatebrowsing (Default), bug 1133582 about:config (Modern)
  • Our front end Sync UI needs to be updated as the old backend is going away in Gecko/Firefox 31. See: New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly. Tracked in:
    • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
    • bug 1003434 Add support for about:sync-progress.
    • Update SeaMonkey won't be allowed to use the Firefox Sync 1.5 servers. Need to look into the possibility of hosting our own servers on a community machine or VPS.
  • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
  • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
    • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
  • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
    • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
  • The C++ downloads manager backend nsIDownloadManager is being decommissioned. Firefox has migrated to jsdownloads. Thunderbird is in the process of migrating. We need to decide how we are going to handle this sooner rather than later.
  • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
    • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 35 new, 6 fixed, 18 triaged.

• Medium triaging effort, average number of new bugs filed.
• IanN thinks it would be useful to remind people on the newsgroups / forums that they can contribute by triaging. Tonymec will post a reminder to newsgroups / forums. See bug 1092632 (Sm_tri_HowTo) Document how to triage SeaMonkey bugs.
  • The draft is currently at https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Tonymec/Triage_HowTo
  • Progress is stalled due to hardware/firmware problems with Tonymec's current computer. Current ETA for newer computer is after Easter but this is a rough estimate. Anyone with a wikimoz account can edit the page (and is welcome to). — Tonymec (talk) 17:35, 21 January 2015 (PST)

Open reviews/flags: 38 review 5 super-review 4 ui-review 7 feedback

• See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
• TODO: We will need to update our Sync UI code due to the new Sync API.
  • MoCo will not allow us to use FxAccounts (the new Sync API). We might want to update our code anyway just in case. One possiblity is to set up our own Sync 1.5 server on a Community machine.

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

rsx11m

Waiting for reviews:

• bug 1127784 [EME] Add a preference and UI to enable/disable playback of Encrypted Media Extensions.
  • needs a branch patch after last week's merge given that 2.35 is affected already (pref definition only).

Filed:

• bug 1133743 Account for Toolkit's style changes in about: pages ("Project Chameleon", bug 1097111)

Working on:

• bug 1137991 Remove SSLv3 option from SSL panel in Privacy & Security panel.

Stalled:

• bug 1032302 8BITMIME keyword ignored in EHLO greeting, BODY=8BITMIME absent in MAIL request for 8-bit transfers. (MailNews)

Other:

• Bug triage, testing, and commenting for SeaMonkey and MailNews Core.
• End-user information and discussion on MozillaZine.

Any other business?

• New review policy for packaging fixes (package-manifest.in). Due to the general unavailability of the team members who usually review these changes (mcsmurf, Callek), Ratty will be available for reviewing packaging fixes or do them himself with a rs=packaging fix..
• North American Daylight Saving Time began on March 8, meeting time remains 13:00 UTC until Europe switches.