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** Update text on [http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/all-older-2.0.html downloads page]?
** Update text on [http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/all-older-2.0.html downloads page]?
*** rebron to work with Standard8 to update wording, add EOL date of 2.0.0.24
*** rebron to work with Standard8 to update wording, add EOL date of 2.0.0.24
** Standard8 remove old [http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/nightly/ latest-1.8 nightly directory] from ftp
** No blog post believed useful/necessary


* 3.0 EOL
* 3.0 EOL
** Discussion started on tb-drivers
** Filed {{bug|598021}} to investigate prompting 3.0.4 users with a major update.
** Standard8 to drive experimenting with revising start pages to inform users about old/unsupported versions to provoke more updates
** Standard8 to drive experimenting with revising start pages to inform users about old/unsupported versions to provoke more updates
** Standard8 to draft announcement and pass round drivers then tb-planning.
** Standard8 to draft announcement and pass round drivers then tb-planning.
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** Standard8 to bump trunk to 3.3a1 to match Bugzilla versioning
** Standard8 to bump trunk to 3.3a1 to match Bugzilla versioning
** Tracemonkey builder
** Tracemonkey builder
*** sent email to js folks
*** Standard8 still to discuss further with sayrer
*** Discussions with sayrer indicate that he wants a "Canary" style system, to protect tracemonkey tree from comm-central bustages.
** libxul up for review.
** mozilla-central considering branching sometime in the next week or two
*** probably want comm-central to mostly follow the branch, possibly with one or two tinderboxen to follow the trunk.  Standard8 to put together more detailed thoughts.
** libxul work progressing.
*** most of the issue lying in LDAP integration.


* 3.1.4 & 3.0.8
* 3.1.x and 3.0.x
** MoCo look like they are homing in on having one fix out.
** 3.1.4 and 3.0.8 released.
** Still following them, but expect a release later this week.
** Started landing some things for 3.1.5, including a lot of [tb31needs] fixes. Hopefully no separate mozilla-1.9.2 relbranch next time.
** 3.1.4 to respin for a second font issue & startup crasher once Gecko has fix.
** 3.1.5 and 3.0.9 schedules up.
** 3.1.4 may also take part of PDF/apple-double bug


* Anti-Virus Vendors
* Anti-Virus Vendors
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* Advertised major updates
* Advertised major updates
** 3.0 -> 3.1.2:
** 3.0 -> 3.1.x:
*** 11th Aug @ 10%, 13th Aug @ 25%, 25th Aug completely unthrottled.
*** 11th Aug @ 10%, 13th Aug @ 25%, 25th Aug completely unthrottled.
*** 7th September: Major updates removed due to 3.0.7 release
*** 7th September: Major updates removed due to 3.0.7 release.
** 2.0 -> 3.1.2:
*** 3.0.8 -> 3.1.4 available manually from 17th Aug
** Suggest unthrottling 3.0.8 -> 3.1.4 on Tuesday 28th as then that will mean they will have had a 1.5 weeks to upgrade
** 2.0 -> 3.1.x:
*** 18th Aug @ 10%, 31st Aug @ 20%
*** 18th Aug @ 10%, 31st Aug @ 20%
*** Probably 500k users upgraded, maybe more
*** 2.0.0.24 -> 3.1.4 available from 17th Aug
** Looking at % ADUs across each build:
** % ADUs across each build:
*** 11 Aug: 2.0: 47.7%, 3.0: 33.2%, 3.1: 19%
{!Date !! 2.0 !! 3.0 !! 3.1
*** 30 Aug: 2.0: 40.5%, 3.0: 15.7%, 3.1: 43.8%
|-
*** 7 Sept: 2.0: 34.1%, 3.0: 13.1%, 3.1: 52.2%
| 11 Aug || 47.7 || 33.2 || 19
*** 13 Sept: 2.0: 30.7%, 3.0: 12.7%, 3.1: 56.6%
|-
** Some users are asking how to downgrade on gsfn
| 30 Aug || 40.5 || 15.7 || 43.8
*** fixed a few bugs
|-
*** Throttle levels should stay the same 1 out of 5 will get an update offer. 1 ping a day (limiting factors: a few crashers, notably 3.1.4 blocker and one other)
| 7 Sept || 34.1 || 13.1 || 52.2
*** Quick filter not visible enough for some user
|-
*** Some password issues
| 13 Sept || 30.7 || 12.7 || 56.6
 
|-
  dmose: yeah, i wonder if the more leveraged place to iterate on design is 
| 20 Sept || 28 || 12.7 || 59.3
  sumomo front page
|}
  dmose: eg we can make a few changes to the start page, which we should
  dmose: but presumably we're only going to have a room for a little,
  and then that content will guide people to SuMoMo


* Conversion funnel
* Conversion funnel

Revision as of 10:15, 21 September 2010

Notetaker

dmose

Agenda & Notes

  • Account Provisioning
  • 2.0 EOL
    • Update text on downloads page?
      • rebron to work with Standard8 to update wording, add EOL date of 2.0.0.24
  • 3.0 EOL
    • Filed bug 598021 to investigate prompting 3.0.4 users with a major update.
    • Standard8 to drive experimenting with revising start pages to inform users about old/unsupported versions to provoke more updates
    • Standard8 to draft announcement and pass round drivers then tb-planning.
  • 3.2
    • Standard8 needs to document flags
    • Otherwise still waiting for branching decision based on account provisioning.
  • Trunk
    • Standard8 to bump trunk to 3.3a1 to match Bugzilla versioning
    • Tracemonkey builder
      • Standard8 still to discuss further with sayrer
    • libxul up for review.
  • 3.1.x and 3.0.x
    • 3.1.4 and 3.0.8 released.
    • Started landing some things for 3.1.5, including a lot of [tb31needs] fixes. Hopefully no separate mozilla-1.9.2 relbranch next time.
    • 3.1.5 and 3.0.9 schedules up.
  • Anti-Virus Vendors
    • McAfee say that they have resolved the issue and are releasing an updated version in December 2010.
  • Advertised major updates
    • 3.0 -> 3.1.x:
      • 11th Aug @ 10%, 13th Aug @ 25%, 25th Aug completely unthrottled.
      • 7th September: Major updates removed due to 3.0.7 release.
      • 3.0.8 -> 3.1.4 available manually from 17th Aug
    • Suggest unthrottling 3.0.8 -> 3.1.4 on Tuesday 28th as then that will mean they will have had a 1.5 weeks to upgrade
    • 2.0 -> 3.1.x:
      • 18th Aug @ 10%, 31st Aug @ 20%
      • 2.0.0.24 -> 3.1.4 available from 17th Aug
    • % ADUs across each build:

{!Date !! 2.0 !! 3.0 !! 3.1 |- | 11 Aug || 47.7 || 33.2 || 19 |- | 30 Aug || 40.5 || 15.7 || 43.8 |- | 7 Sept || 34.1 || 13.1 || 52.2 |- | 13 Sept || 30.7 || 12.7 || 56.6 |- | 20 Sept || 28 || 12.7 || 59.3 |}

  • Conversion funnel

Attendees

Standard8, rebron, wsmwk, ludo, bienvenu, gozer, dmose

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