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* | * Mark Giffin, Janet, Jeff Griffiths, James 'Pedro' Long, TofuMatt, Havi | ||
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Action items | Action items - Proposals for the 2 weeks ahead in preparation from FISL and upcoming App Hack events. We need to prioritize the documentation tasks. Updates: | ||
'''Janet & Mark''' | '''Janet & Mark''' | ||
* Tutorial: Restructure the existing MDN Getting Started tutorial to be more modular, sequential and fast-start friendly: Prioritize MDN over Developer Hub | * Tutorial: Restructure the existing MDN Getting Started tutorial to be more modular, sequential and fast-start friendly: Prioritize MDN over Developer Hub | ||
**https://marketplace-dev.allizom.org/developers/tutorial/apps?lang=en-us vs | **https://marketplace-dev.allizom.org/developers/tutorial/apps?lang=en-us vs | ||
'''Janet & Daniel Buchner''' | |||
'''Janet & Daniel Buchner''' | |||
* Developer Hub: Come up with a Developer Hub plan and timeline for Q3-Q4 | * Developer Hub: Come up with a Developer Hub plan and timeline for Q3-Q4 | ||
**what is top priority Apps content w/delivery dates (should map closely to tutorial priorities on MDN) | **what is top priority Apps content w/delivery dates (should map closely to tutorial priorities on MDN) | ||
'''James Long, Fred & Mark Giffin''' | '''James Long, Fred & Mark Giffin''' | ||
* Tutorial: Using Mortar to build Tweetness | * Tutorial: Using Mortar to build Tweetness | ||
** https://github.com/jlongster/tweetness | ** https://github.com/jlongster/tweetness | ||
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'''Bryan, James Burke & Mark Giffin''' | '''Bryan, James Burke & Mark Giffin''' NOT AVAILABLE | ||
* Tutorial: Walkthrough of NPR app demo Install module -- installs to Moz Marketplace, Android store & iOS | * Tutorial: Walkthrough of NPR app demo Install module -- installs to Moz Marketplace, Android store & iOS | ||
** Install module screencast delivered | ** Install module screencast delivered | ||
** Next steps for NPR demo app (Can James work on screencasts while Bryan is out?) | ** Next steps for NPR demo app (Can James work on screencasts while Bryan is out?) | ||
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** Define the tool chain | ** Define the tool chain | ||
** Documentation plan / craft tutorial | ** Documentation plan / craft tutorial | ||
UPDATE: See below | |||
*Question: Is there a simple client-side app we can document in a tutorial style? Fred and I were having trouble coming up with one. | *Question: Is there a simple client-side app we can document in a tutorial style? Fred and I were having trouble coming up with one. | ||
*Fred has a game called Serpent that uses WebGameStub template, but it is keyboard-based, not mobile friendly. Is this worth documenting? | *Fred has a game called Serpent that uses WebGameStub template, but it is keyboard-based, not mobile friendly. Is this worth documenting? UPDATE: Fred has now created & submitted a mobile version! | ||
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*Updates on Action Items: | |||
** UPDATE: Apps Tutorial is ready for FISL: https://developer-new.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Apps/Tutorials/General | |||
***Mark is adding new stuff based on content from Jason Smith. | |||
***TofuMatt says we need update to manifest. Will share with Mark. Mark to include. | |||
* | ** UPDATE: Everyone upvotes the NPR installer module. It encourages people to submit to Marketplace and iterate. | ||
** UPDATE: Developer hub plan is owned by Dev Ecosystem team. Janet & Mark will coordinate when Fred and Daniel are back in the office. | |||
** UPDATE: James will use a different Mortar app to demo Mortar, not Tweetness | |||
*** (What's Mortar: a collection of templates - base UI, game, server-side, pre-built/list view) - and will post on github before FISL | |||
*** AND James will send markdown version of this to Janet/Mark to include on MDN | |||
** UPDATE: Tofumatt on Server-side ecosystem tool plan - | |||
*** web apps need server-side components - b/c you need some place to host them - for auth and storage. | |||
*** basic stuff that doesn't require elaborate framework for JS-savvy devs | |||
*** host on Heroku for free till you can make money. scales well, very good for testing | |||
node is good for testing locally. | |||
*** Matt is building a little node.js server - and dealing w/node setup. Includes: | |||
****install app | |||
****webpage | |||
****serves up proper manifest | |||
****simple DB backend like redis | |||
****2 command deploy to heroku (free for 1 server, 1 listener) | |||
****time estimate: 1-2 weeks to get it going. | |||
****maybe an example app for games. | |||
**Some notes on hosting options: | |||
***AWS - heroku is hosted on Amazon, good reliability and well-distributed, but way easier to deal with. | |||
***Github hosting is preferable if they are only client-side. | |||
***Volo will package, minify and push to github w/2 commands. | |||
***set your github branch to your page branch. |
Revision as of 01:14, 20 July 2012
Agenda
- Quick updates & report on action items
- Developer Support plan for Apps - Janet
- Docs tutorials priorities - Janet
- Apps docs tutorials priorities in Q3 - Janet
- Update on Mortar (James Long)
- Update on Server-side tools plan (Tofumatt)
Attendees
- Mark Giffin, Janet, Jeff Griffiths, James 'Pedro' Long, TofuMatt, Havi
Administrivia
- Recurring meeting will be Tuesday, 11am.
- Raw notes: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/apps-dev-content-2012-07-17
- last week's raw notes: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/apps-dev-content-2012-07-10
Action Items
Action items - Proposals for the 2 weeks ahead in preparation from FISL and upcoming App Hack events. We need to prioritize the documentation tasks. Updates:
Janet & Mark
- Tutorial: Restructure the existing MDN Getting Started tutorial to be more modular, sequential and fast-start friendly: Prioritize MDN over Developer Hub
Janet & Daniel Buchner
- Developer Hub: Come up with a Developer Hub plan and timeline for Q3-Q4
- what is top priority Apps content w/delivery dates (should map closely to tutorial priorities on MDN)
James Long, Fred & Mark Giffin
- Tutorial: Using Mortar to build Tweetness
- https://github.com/jlongster/tweetness
- Fred will discuss w/James to see if he can deliver 1st draft by 7/20
- Mark to write and post to MDN by 7/25 in time for FISL hack day
Bryan, James Burke & Mark Giffin NOT AVAILABLE
- Tutorial: Walkthrough of NPR app demo Install module -- installs to Moz Marketplace, Android store & iOS
- Install module screencast delivered
- Next steps for NPR demo app (Can James work on screencasts while Bryan is out?)
Tofumatt/Fred
- Writing server-side components for my App?
- Fred will discuss w/Tofumatt, establish timeline. (Possibility of having TofuMatt present this in Brazil in early Q4)
- Define the tool chain
- Documentation plan / craft tutorial
UPDATE: See below
- Question: Is there a simple client-side app we can document in a tutorial style? Fred and I were having trouble coming up with one.
- Fred has a game called Serpent that uses WebGameStub template, but it is keyboard-based, not mobile friendly. Is this worth documenting? UPDATE: Fred has now created & submitted a mobile version!
Minutes
- Updates on Action Items:
- UPDATE: Apps Tutorial is ready for FISL: https://developer-new.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Apps/Tutorials/General
- Mark is adding new stuff based on content from Jason Smith.
- TofuMatt says we need update to manifest. Will share with Mark. Mark to include.
- UPDATE: Apps Tutorial is ready for FISL: https://developer-new.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Apps/Tutorials/General
- UPDATE: Everyone upvotes the NPR installer module. It encourages people to submit to Marketplace and iterate.
- UPDATE: Developer hub plan is owned by Dev Ecosystem team. Janet & Mark will coordinate when Fred and Daniel are back in the office.
- UPDATE: James will use a different Mortar app to demo Mortar, not Tweetness
- (What's Mortar: a collection of templates - base UI, game, server-side, pre-built/list view) - and will post on github before FISL
- AND James will send markdown version of this to Janet/Mark to include on MDN
- UPDATE: James will use a different Mortar app to demo Mortar, not Tweetness
- UPDATE: Tofumatt on Server-side ecosystem tool plan -
- web apps need server-side components - b/c you need some place to host them - for auth and storage.
- basic stuff that doesn't require elaborate framework for JS-savvy devs
- host on Heroku for free till you can make money. scales well, very good for testing
- UPDATE: Tofumatt on Server-side ecosystem tool plan -
node is good for testing locally.
- Matt is building a little node.js server - and dealing w/node setup. Includes:
- install app
- webpage
- serves up proper manifest
- simple DB backend like redis
- 2 command deploy to heroku (free for 1 server, 1 listener)
- time estimate: 1-2 weeks to get it going.
- maybe an example app for games.
- Matt is building a little node.js server - and dealing w/node setup. Includes:
- Some notes on hosting options:
- AWS - heroku is hosted on Amazon, good reliability and well-distributed, but way easier to deal with.
- Github hosting is preferable if they are only client-side.
- Volo will package, minify and push to github w/2 commands.
- set your github branch to your page branch.
- Some notes on hosting options: