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* Autoconfig process - work in progress
* Autoconfig process - work in progress
* Muting status meeting - gozer


==== Closed ====
==== Closed ====
* Muting status meeting - gozer (now muted by default + "announces" new arrivals).


=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b3|Thunderbird 3 Beta 3]] ===
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b3|Thunderbird 3 Beta 3]] ===
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* Search ({{Bug|474701}}) - folder display patch landed
* Search ({{Bug|474701}}) - folder display patch landed
** reviews to asuth, submodule changes under discussion
** devs should get mozmill installed and test harness running


* Beta 3 stated as the release for all work with serious downstream work impact (ui, backend, l10n, etc). Anything that isn't like that should be pushed out into Beta 4.
* Beta 3 stated as the release for all work with serious downstream work impact (ui, backend, l10n, etc). Anything that isn't like that should be pushed out into Beta 4.
* Blocking bugs are now allowed to be owned by nobody@mozilla.org.
** Changing this policy helps make the list better reflect reality w.r.t. which bugs are actually getting attention and which ones aren't.


* Blockers/Wanted
* Blockers/Wanted
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** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 13 (0)
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 13 (0)
* Proposed Blocking (all milestones)
* Proposed Blocking (all milestones)
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 36 (+2)
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 39 (+5)
* Fixed:
* Fixed:
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 122 (+1)
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 125 (+3)
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 37 (0)
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 37 (0)


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* Blockers/Wanted
* Blockers/Wanted
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b4&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b4}} 34 (+1)
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b4&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b4}} 33 (0)
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b4}} 1 (0)
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b4}} 2 (+1)
** b3ux TBD
** b3ux TBD
<!-- ** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 15 -->
<!-- ** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 15 -->
* Proposed Blocking (all milestones)
* Proposed Blocking (all milestones)
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 36 (+2)
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 39 (+5)
* Fixed:
* Fixed:
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b4}} 0
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b4}} 0
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* [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap]]
* [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap]]
* Standard8 and gozer have been working on getting new app update server up and going for Thunderbird 3


* Blockers
* Blockers
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 138 (+5)
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 141 (+8)
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 5 (0)
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 6 (+1)
* Proposed Blocking
* Proposed Blocking
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 36 (+2)
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 39 (+5)


* Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.
* Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.
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=== QA Updates ===
=== QA Updates ===
* Usual bug day
* Participated in testing the refactoring
* Waiting on date to organize the rest
* Email about UI refactoring sent to [https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/thunderbird-testers thunderbird-tester] mailing list
* This week will be a regular bugday.


=== Marketing Updates ===
=== Marketing Updates ===
* Welcome to NectarPR who we've got on board to help with pr and launch.
* Continuing work with Thunderbird icon refresh.  Targeting next Monday to get designer on board.
* Check out [http://mozillaservice.org Mozilla Service Week] Sept 14 - 21.


=== IT update ===
=== IT update ===
* Buildbot performance/reliability improvements
* Setting up a staging buildbot installation
* Working at solving our issues with Hg
* Windows try server speed issues
** servers in Amazon cloud
* Non-windows signing tests worked
* Bad blade has been replaced


=== Documentation ===
=== Documentation ===
* continued work on porting / archiving content on mozilla.org
** moved code review requirements to MDC; updated with input from Standard8, dmose, bienvenu
* blog asuth's new how-tos
* ongoing notations / links for newsgroup threads on MDC
* short week - attended Open Web conference
* keeping an eye on FTP server dir hierarchy changes; will update docs once they happen


=== Roundtable ===
=== Roundtable ===
==== xpcshell Tests & Leak Logs (Standard8) ====
* Thanks to Serge Gautherie for finishing and landing {{bug|384339}}, this means that check-interactive works correctly even with tail_*.js scripts in xpcshell tests.
* Now have landed mailnews shutdown scripts for everything bar mailnews/db/gloda.
** Therefore reported leaks for xpcshell-tests are either '''real leaks''' or '''issues in the testcases'''.
** {{Bug|498147}} is the tracking bug for leaks in MailNews - bugs already filed for existing leaks.
** Some leak bugs cover multiple tests as they are most likely caused by one issue.
* mailnews/db/gloda will hopefully land soon.
* Standard8 happy to try and help resolve leaks in new tests.
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/MailNews:Home_Page#Automatic_Testing] has current documentation; may move to devmo


==== Status Updates ====
==== Status Updates ====


===== nth10sd =====
===== nth10sd =====
* On hiatus from end-June for 2 weeks
* Left with ~10 Mail patchloves with non-obsolete patches - should finish by end-June
** Will ping about obsolete patchlove patches, to hopefully get updated patches
* Testing {{bug|474701}} post-landing, confirming a number of bugs.
* Came up with Gmail IMAP testcase for {{bug|498156}} - Chinese HTML testcase
* Parallel push of closemes / labelling with wsmwk
* {{bug|345040}}, {{bug|62026}} - patchloves
* {{bug|340779}} - qawanted for the week


===== sid0 =====
===== sid0 =====
* {{Bug|467768}}.
* UI refactoring testing.
* Lots of problems with the multiplexed message pane (e.g. several problems for which there are workarounds in 467768, or {{bug|498514}}.) Thinking of taking the bug to de-multiplex the message pane.
* Still having a bit of trouble with mozmill, though asuth has some patches that should help.


===== davida =====
===== davida =====
* MoMo board meeting
* spoke about Open Web Vancouver conference


===== dmose =====
===== dmose =====
* Last week
** 3.0b3 driving
** MoMo board meeting/strategy work
** blogged jQuery / Protovis plans
** worked on [[User:Dmose:Helping_New_Lightning_Hackers|project to recruit and train new Lightning hackers]]; handed off ownership to Fallen
** floated new submodule proposals
* This week
** drive in compact header extraction patch
** push on calendar contractor hiring


===== Standard8 =====
===== Standard8 =====
* Reviews & Driving
* Unit Tests - Cleaning up leak output {{Bug|438922}}, see above.
* {{Bug|497891}} Incorrect plural rules for thread counts in summary page for collapsed threads and multiple selections.
* Send in background
** More work on moving this forward.
* Content Tabs
** {{Bug|497570}} Investigated providing basic navigation support
** {{Bug|498018}} Hooked up print


===== asuth =====
===== asuth =====
* Landed {{bug|474701}}.  Dealing with regressions, documentation, unit testing.


===== bienvenu =====
===== bienvenu =====
* Reviews and Driving
* UI refactoring testing
* Fixed fake server to quote folder name in status response, {{bug|497503}}
* Fixed hang when trying to append a file to an imap folder and the file read returns 0 bytes, {{bug|497598}}
* Expand collapsed threads when new messages come into open views, {{bug|494811}}
* Fixed local folder empty trash regression, {{bug|498331}}
* If imap folder create fails, list parent to see if it supports children, {{bug|492921}}
* Worked on some imap fake server issues with LIST command - that and other patches awaiting review.


===== gozer =====
===== gozer =====
* Build
** ftp.m.o nightly directory re-org today! {{bug|481685}}
** Buildbot
*** Upgraded twisted
*** Buildbot master got migrated to a faster VM with speedier I/O
** Investigated the ongoing issues with 'hg clone'
*** <code>hg clone --uncompressed</code> looks promising
**** < 5 minute mozilla-central clone from a local LAN mirror on OS X
* Infrastructure
** Better, deeper monitoring of buildbot
** Replaced the failed blade
** Brought 4 new VM Server Hosts online
** Tested [http://www.vmware.com/products/esxi VMWare ESXi]


===== clarkbw =====
===== clarkbw =====
* Reviews and Bugs
* working with new code re-factor patch
** created [http://hg.mozilla.org/users/clarkbw_gnome.org/tabbedmessage/ tabbedmessage] example extension
* creating a set of example extensions
* will be creating a set of polish tracking bugs for coming b4 release


===== wsmwk =====
===== wsmwk =====
* extended bugzilla editbugs privs to: 1 person, 2 more in the works
* grilled Bug 474701 landing for front end rework for new search ui
* bug triage: General, junk, spelling, ...
** 50+ bugs closed, 30 closemes pending


===== beckley =====
===== beckley =====


====== Penelope ======
====== Penelope ======
* [http://hg.mozilla.org/penelope/rev/b85d058b787a Russian localization of Penelope] by Alexander Slovesnik
* Submitted a [https://trac.annodex.net/ticket/482 patch] of end-of-line issues with the upstream repo for liboggplay
* [http://hg.mozilla.org/penelope/rev/66820522a1d4 Hid the quick recipient menus] (New Message To, Forward To, Redirect To) as the quick recipient feature is not implemented yet
* {{bug|457745}} More patches and comments on the auto-naming filter patch
* Some testing of Eudora 8 on Windows 7 RC showed some problems with importing from Classic Eudora, which involves some disk/file errors, but reproducibility is a problem


===== KaiRo =====
===== KaiRo =====
* Once again not here today due to attending a university course
* Tested and verified that "L10n merge" works on new SeaMonkey buildbots (localized builds work even with incomplete localization due to merging in en-US strings) - Thunderbird can get this with new L10n repack classes
* Started working on release automation for SeaMonkey, a lot of it is working already, should be able to use it for Beta 1
* Did the big NEW->UNCONFIRMED bug change for old untouched SeaMonkey bugs and ran into some problems with Bugzilla, but finally succeeded (not without some embarrassment)
* Driving SeaMonkey 1.1.17 release process in parallel with Thunderbird 2.0.0.22


===== rkent =====
===== rkent =====


===== rebron =====
===== rebron =====
* Following [http://labs.mozilla.com/contests/extendfirefox3.5/ Extend Firefox contest] for our future Add-ons contest for Thunderbird 3.


===== Tsk =====
===== Tsk =====
* Usual organizing
* Working on ISP
* Getting into python - not as fast as I would like.
* Happy about the refactoring finally landing and the way the patches are pilling up.


===== andreasn =====
===== andreasn =====
* Last week
** Built TB on Mac
** Multiple messages css {{bug|492158}}
** Autoconfiguration layout (sent to clarkbw)
** Compose icon experiments (still wip)
* This week
** Account Central
** Folder summary
** Reply-to-list icons
** Away Thu-Fri


===== mkmelin =====
===== mkmelin =====
===== bwinton =====
Last week:
* Patches committed for {{bug|45715}}, and {{bug|490105}}.
* Patches up for review for {{bug|490106}}, {{bug|495113}}, and {{bug|496439}}.
* Patches waiting for commit for {{bug|496440}}.
This week:
* Looking into {{bug|248681}}, {{bug|490097}}, {{bug|492438}}, {{bug|498448}}, {{bug|498480}}, and {{bug|498519}}.
* Fixing any other Reply-List bugs that get reported.
* Getting mozmill up and running so that I don't have to manually test everything all the time.


=== Attendees ===
=== Attendees ===


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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

Agenda

Action Items

New

Open

  • Autoconfig process - work in progress

Closed

  • Muting status meeting - gozer (now muted by default + "announces" new arrivals).

Thunderbird 3 Beta 3

  • Planned Freeze Dates ( All dates use time of 23:59 PST )
    • Slushy String freeze date: TBD
    • Slushy Code Freeze date: TBD
    • Firm String / Code freeze date: TBD
    • l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze date: TBD
    • Target Build Ship date: TBD
  • dmose is release driver
  • gozer is build engineer
  • Search (bug 474701) - folder display patch landed
    • reviews to asuth, submodule changes under discussion
    • devs should get mozmill installed and test harness running
  • Beta 3 stated as the release for all work with serious downstream work impact (ui, backend, l10n, etc). Anything that isn't like that should be pushed out into Beta 4.

Thunderbird 3 Beta 4

  • Release Driver: Standard8
  • Build Engineer: gozer


Not much to say on Beta 4 until B3 is sorted out.

Thunderbird 3

  • Standard8 and gozer have been working on getting new app update server up and going for Thunderbird 3
  • Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.
  • If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.

QA Updates

  • Usual bug day
  • Participated in testing the refactoring
  • Waiting on date to organize the rest
  • Email about UI refactoring sent to thunderbird-tester mailing list
  • This week will be a regular bugday.

Marketing Updates

  • Welcome to NectarPR who we've got on board to help with pr and launch.
  • Continuing work with Thunderbird icon refresh. Targeting next Monday to get designer on board.
  • Check out Mozilla Service Week Sept 14 - 21.

IT update

  • Buildbot performance/reliability improvements
  • Setting up a staging buildbot installation
  • Working at solving our issues with Hg
  • Windows try server speed issues
    • servers in Amazon cloud
  • Non-windows signing tests worked
  • Bad blade has been replaced

Documentation

  • continued work on porting / archiving content on mozilla.org
    • moved code review requirements to MDC; updated with input from Standard8, dmose, bienvenu
  • blog asuth's new how-tos
  • ongoing notations / links for newsgroup threads on MDC
  • short week - attended Open Web conference
  • keeping an eye on FTP server dir hierarchy changes; will update docs once they happen

Roundtable

xpcshell Tests & Leak Logs (Standard8)

  • Thanks to Serge Gautherie for finishing and landing bug 384339, this means that check-interactive works correctly even with tail_*.js scripts in xpcshell tests.
  • Now have landed mailnews shutdown scripts for everything bar mailnews/db/gloda.
    • Therefore reported leaks for xpcshell-tests are either real leaks or issues in the testcases.
    • bug 498147 is the tracking bug for leaks in MailNews - bugs already filed for existing leaks.
    • Some leak bugs cover multiple tests as they are most likely caused by one issue.
  • mailnews/db/gloda will hopefully land soon.
  • Standard8 happy to try and help resolve leaks in new tests.
  • [1] has current documentation; may move to devmo

Status Updates

nth10sd
  • On hiatus from end-June for 2 weeks
  • Left with ~10 Mail patchloves with non-obsolete patches - should finish by end-June
    • Will ping about obsolete patchlove patches, to hopefully get updated patches
  • Testing bug 474701 post-landing, confirming a number of bugs.
  • Came up with Gmail IMAP testcase for bug 498156 - Chinese HTML testcase
  • Parallel push of closemes / labelling with wsmwk
  • bug 345040, bug 62026 - patchloves
  • bug 340779 - qawanted for the week
sid0
  • bug 467768.
  • UI refactoring testing.
  • Lots of problems with the multiplexed message pane (e.g. several problems for which there are workarounds in 467768, or bug 498514.) Thinking of taking the bug to de-multiplex the message pane.
  • Still having a bit of trouble with mozmill, though asuth has some patches that should help.
davida
  • MoMo board meeting
  • spoke about Open Web Vancouver conference
dmose
  • Last week
  • This week
    • drive in compact header extraction patch
    • push on calendar contractor hiring
Standard8
  • Reviews & Driving
  • Unit Tests - Cleaning up leak output bug 438922, see above.
  • bug 497891 Incorrect plural rules for thread counts in summary page for collapsed threads and multiple selections.
  • Send in background
    • More work on moving this forward.
  • Content Tabs
asuth
  • Landed bug 474701. Dealing with regressions, documentation, unit testing.
bienvenu
  • Reviews and Driving
  • UI refactoring testing
  • Fixed fake server to quote folder name in status response, bug 497503
  • Fixed hang when trying to append a file to an imap folder and the file read returns 0 bytes, bug 497598
  • Expand collapsed threads when new messages come into open views, bug 494811
  • Fixed local folder empty trash regression, bug 498331
  • If imap folder create fails, list parent to see if it supports children, bug 492921
  • Worked on some imap fake server issues with LIST command - that and other patches awaiting review.
gozer
  • Build
    • ftp.m.o nightly directory re-org today! bug 481685
    • Buildbot
      • Upgraded twisted
      • Buildbot master got migrated to a faster VM with speedier I/O
    • Investigated the ongoing issues with 'hg clone'
      • hg clone --uncompressed looks promising
        • < 5 minute mozilla-central clone from a local LAN mirror on OS X
  • Infrastructure
    • Better, deeper monitoring of buildbot
    • Replaced the failed blade
    • Brought 4 new VM Server Hosts online
    • Tested VMWare ESXi
clarkbw
  • Reviews and Bugs
  • working with new code re-factor patch
  • creating a set of example extensions
  • will be creating a set of polish tracking bugs for coming b4 release
wsmwk
  • extended bugzilla editbugs privs to: 1 person, 2 more in the works
  • grilled Bug 474701 landing for front end rework for new search ui
  • bug triage: General, junk, spelling, ...
    • 50+ bugs closed, 30 closemes pending
beckley
Penelope
  • Russian localization of Penelope by Alexander Slovesnik
  • Submitted a patch of end-of-line issues with the upstream repo for liboggplay
  • Hid the quick recipient menus (New Message To, Forward To, Redirect To) as the quick recipient feature is not implemented yet
  • bug 457745 More patches and comments on the auto-naming filter patch
  • Some testing of Eudora 8 on Windows 7 RC showed some problems with importing from Classic Eudora, which involves some disk/file errors, but reproducibility is a problem
KaiRo
  • Once again not here today due to attending a university course
  • Tested and verified that "L10n merge" works on new SeaMonkey buildbots (localized builds work even with incomplete localization due to merging in en-US strings) - Thunderbird can get this with new L10n repack classes
  • Started working on release automation for SeaMonkey, a lot of it is working already, should be able to use it for Beta 1
  • Did the big NEW->UNCONFIRMED bug change for old untouched SeaMonkey bugs and ran into some problems with Bugzilla, but finally succeeded (not without some embarrassment)
  • Driving SeaMonkey 1.1.17 release process in parallel with Thunderbird 2.0.0.22
rkent
rebron
Tsk
  • Usual organizing
  • Working on ISP
  • Getting into python - not as fast as I would like.
  • Happy about the refactoring finally landing and the way the patches are pilling up.
andreasn
  • Last week
    • Built TB on Mac
    • Multiple messages css bug 492158
    • Autoconfiguration layout (sent to clarkbw)
    • Compose icon experiments (still wip)
  • This week
    • Account Central
    • Folder summary
    • Reply-to-list icons
    • Away Thu-Fri
mkmelin
bwinton

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