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= Notices / Schedule =
= Notices / Schedule =
''' Firefox 4 Beta 7'''
''' Firefox 4 Beta 7'''
* still waiting for GC compartments to land on the relbranch
** compatibility issues with JetPack and Firebug
** stability issues (see roundtable)
** minor theme tweaks are being landed in both places


'''Firefox 3.6.11'''
'''Firefox 3.6.11'''
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= Blocker Report =
= Blocker Report =
A handy list of [[Firefox/4/Triage|Firefox 4 triage queries]] is available:
A handy list of [[Firefox/4/Triage|Firefox 4 triage queries]] is available:
* Beta 7: [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0%3Abeta7 17 blockers]
* Beta 7: [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0%3Abeta7 19 blockers]
* Beta: [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0%3Abeta 510 blockers]
* Beta: [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0%3Abeta 486 blockers]
* Final: [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0%3Afinal 391 blockers]
* Final: [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0%3Afinal 389 blockers]
** TOTAL: [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0%3Afinal,beta 901 blockers]
** TOTAL: [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0%3Afinal,beta 875 blockers]
** nominations: [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=OPEN%20blocking2.0%3A%22%3F%22 160 nominations]
** nominations: [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=OPEN%20blocking2.0%3A%22%3F%22 183 nominations]
** ready to land: [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0:beta,final%20sw:land,checkin 11 blockers ready]
** ready to land: [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0:beta,final%20sw:land,checkin 12 blockers ready]


* CrashKill Team
= Firefox Development =
** Problems with Stability of the Trunk - less stable then we were before.
* Need to find owners for the high priority [[Firefox/Projects/New_Theme/Timeline|unowned theme bugs]]
** 2010-10-17, 4500 crashes on the trunk with 31K active users
* Need help making {{bug|588764}} performant (roc/vlad?)
** 2010-10-13, 1400 crashes on the trunk with 30K active users
** With a similar user set, our crashes have increased by more than 3X.
** More details at https://wiki.mozilla.org/CrashKill/Firefox4#Status.
** Need to discuss during the roundtable.


= Firefox Development =
(from our [[Firefox/Goals/2010Q4|goals]]):
(from our [[Firefox/Goals/2010Q4|goals]]):
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= Platform =
= Platform =
Breakdown of all 2.0 blocker and current assignments. Shows a lot of items in unassigned lists (nobody, general.js)
*[http://bit.ly/9lZFIj Blocker assignments]
There are about 31 crash bugs where the blocking status has changed since Oct 13th. We removed the dups.
*[http://bit.ly/bKE7nQ New crashers since 2010-10-13]
There are about another 22 crash bugs in the nomination queue we would like to get triaged so we have a handle on all the blockers.
*[http://bit.ly/c61Yme Crashers in the nom queue]


= GFX =
= GFX =
* Direct3D 10 layers backend will be turned on by default RSN.
** Needs one or two prerequisites to land first.
** Will give us some pretty great Ts/Txul wins because we no longer create a D3D9 device.
** Will also help us with newer hardware, like NVIDIA Optimus, which doesn't handle the D3D9/D3D10 interop very well at all.
** Should also get us some perf wins on some heavy rendering sites.
* This means that DirectX 9 will only be used on computers incapable of Direct2D, such as XP machines.


= Layout =
= Layout =
* dbaron's CSS 2.1 testsuite results: [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-css-testsuite/2010Oct/0281.html]
** Significantly better than Webkit and Opera, a little behind IE9
* Blockers (including SVG and Widget)
** 2 beta8 blockers
** 35 betaN blockers
** 96 final blockers
** 14 requests need triage
* Risky issues:
** Laptop trackpad breakage due to hacky drivers sniffing our HWNDs: {{bug|605357}}, {{bug|594977}}, {{bug|593372}}
= Video/Audio =
* Blockers
** 0 beta8 blockers
** 2 betaN blockers
** 10 final blockers


= JS =
= JS =
* ES5
** Landings
*** strict this landed in TM, also in m-c, to be in b7 soon ({{bug|strictThis}}
** Current work
*** Making eval in strict mode not affect the variable set of the calling code ({{bug|514568}})
*** Refactoring of eval code ({{bug|604504}})


= Tree Management =
= Tree Management =
* Sunday's downtime successful. New infrastructure in place, so 650castro has better redundancy, and better bandwidth capacity.
* new firewall deployed during Sunday downtime had a bug related to h323 data
** this caused intermittent network failures whenever anyone started h323 traffic.
** Firewall patched with fix from vendor at ~09:30 Monday, so we *think* all is good.
** meanwhile, if you still see builds/tests failing because of network issues, please file bug in mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering and we'll triage.
* yesterday's power outage in 650castro
** cause unknown, IT still investigating


= Roundtable =
= Roundtable =
* [blizzard] I need some XUL experts
* [smooney] Problems with Stability of the Trunk - less stable then we were before.
** 2010-10-17, 4500 crashes on the trunk with 31K active users
** 2010-10-13, 1400 crashes on the trunk with 30K active users
** With a similar user set, our crashes have increased by more than 3X.
** More details at https://wiki.mozilla.org/CrashKill/Firefox4#Status.
* [ctalbert] Mcote recreated the blocker report stuff that we had in the run up to 3.6
** [http://blocker-reports.brasstacks.mozilla.com/ Take a look] and let us know if there's anything you like to see throw comments our way in {{bug|599582}}

Latest revision as of 18:46, 19 October 2010

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Notices / Schedule

Firefox 4 Beta 7

  • still waiting for GC compartments to land on the relbranch
    • compatibility issues with JetPack and Firebug
    • stability issues (see roundtable)
    • minor theme tweaks are being landed in both places

Firefox 3.6.11

Firefox 3.5.14

Blocker Report

A handy list of Firefox 4 triage queries is available:

Firefox Development

(from our goals):

Firefox

  • [ON TRACK] API-Complete Jetpack
    • Joint with Jetpack team
    • Currently working towards feature-complete beta SDK
  • [ON TRACK] Stand up basic Firefox with Electrolysis

Developer Tools

  • [NEW] Ensure that Firefox 4 ships with a compatible version of Firebug
  • [NEW] Publish a roadmap for integrated developer tools in Firefox, including console, inspection, and js debugging
  • [NEW] Develop long term plan for Skywriter maintenance/support

Platform

Breakdown of all 2.0 blocker and current assignments. Shows a lot of items in unassigned lists (nobody, general.js)

There are about 31 crash bugs where the blocking status has changed since Oct 13th. We removed the dups.

There are about another 22 crash bugs in the nomination queue we would like to get triaged so we have a handle on all the blockers.

GFX

  • Direct3D 10 layers backend will be turned on by default RSN.
    • Needs one or two prerequisites to land first.
    • Will give us some pretty great Ts/Txul wins because we no longer create a D3D9 device.
    • Will also help us with newer hardware, like NVIDIA Optimus, which doesn't handle the D3D9/D3D10 interop very well at all.
    • Should also get us some perf wins on some heavy rendering sites.
  • This means that DirectX 9 will only be used on computers incapable of Direct2D, such as XP machines.

Layout

  • dbaron's CSS 2.1 testsuite results: [1]
    • Significantly better than Webkit and Opera, a little behind IE9
  • Blockers (including SVG and Widget)
    • 2 beta8 blockers
    • 35 betaN blockers
    • 96 final blockers
    • 14 requests need triage
  • Risky issues:

Video/Audio

  • Blockers
    • 0 beta8 blockers
    • 2 betaN blockers
    • 10 final blockers

JS

  • ES5
    • Landings
      • strict this landed in TM, also in m-c, to be in b7 soon (bug strictThis
    • Current work
      • Making eval in strict mode not affect the variable set of the calling code (bug 514568)
      • Refactoring of eval code (bug 604504)

Tree Management

  • Sunday's downtime successful. New infrastructure in place, so 650castro has better redundancy, and better bandwidth capacity.
  • new firewall deployed during Sunday downtime had a bug related to h323 data
    • this caused intermittent network failures whenever anyone started h323 traffic.
    • Firewall patched with fix from vendor at ~09:30 Monday, so we *think* all is good.
    • meanwhile, if you still see builds/tests failing because of network issues, please file bug in mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering and we'll triage.
  • yesterday's power outage in 650castro
    • cause unknown, IT still investigating

Roundtable

  • [blizzard] I need some XUL experts
  • [smooney] Problems with Stability of the Trunk - less stable then we were before.
    • 2010-10-17, 4500 crashes on the trunk with 31K active users
    • 2010-10-13, 1400 crashes on the trunk with 30K active users
    • With a similar user set, our crashes have increased by more than 3X.
    • More details at https://wiki.mozilla.org/CrashKill/Firefox4#Status.
  • [ctalbert] Mcote recreated the blocker report stuff that we had in the run up to 3.6
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