Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2008-05-06

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Thunderbird Meeting Details

Agenda

Action Items

  1. Prepare Thunderbird 3 Alpha 1 release notes for the upcoming release.
    • nth10sd has the next revision out.
    • Everyone: Please comment on how we can improve the release notes (ping davida if you want to see the staging version).
    • davida still has to fill in some bits.
  2. We need a code name for non-release TB builds.
    • Discussions in the newsgroup.
      • Currently no clear winner.
    • We have to have the equivalent of Firefox's Minefield/Gran Paradiso combination though.
    • davida post in newsgroup asking for scary names.
    • Lots of work to do to set it up, so this won't be done for Thunderbird 3.0a1.

Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0a1

  • Code freeze entered on Wednesday, April 23, 23:59 Pacific
  • 4 remaining blockers
    • One needs review, one is release notes.
    • The newsgroups one will probably have the patch backed out due to lack of information and understanding.
    • Last one tbd, but may not be a blocker or already fixed.
    • We should be able to clear the blockers today.
  • Verbiage is on the Tinderboxen forbidding checkins to mail/ and mailnews/ of non-3.0a1-blocking bugs without explicit approvals. Those directories will remain closed until we've cleared the blocker list (either by fixing or cutting remaining bugs), spun builds, and tagged the release.
    • dmose posted update on current status and expectations to newsgroups
  • We're building a release checklist as we go, so that this stuff is written down somewhere, possibly either updating or starting from http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Mozilla_Release_Checklist. http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox3/Beta2ReleaseChecklist looks like useful source material as well.
    • nth10sd to add QA activities to release check list
    • Rick to add build activities to release check list
  • Once dev is happy with code-base, could use date or tag to "mark" the build.
    • Must keep a clear record written down somewhere.
    • Best to use date or a tag and check-in to trunk and tag any remaining required fixes.
  • Not planning on doing automatic updates between alphas
    • Mainly due to QA load.
    • Could use start-page to notify users of new version instead.
    • Rick to check that the correct channel is set so that we won't provide updates to alpha people, but we can later provide updates between betas.
  • Release Builds
    • Expect problems, we'll be using buildbot and Firefox didn't do its alphas with the buildbot automation.
    • Rick to talk to MoCo build engineers to find out when the builds are likely

AMO recommended list

We need to identify a recommended list of Tb addons, per category. See bug 425333 for the list of candidates. Any takers to coordinate feedback before I (DavidA) blog about it?

  • clarkbw to co-ordinate and summarise community discussion on best add-ons.
  • nth10sd has a list in a comment in that bug after a quick glance, though still un-categorized.

(see also the Talk Page)


QA Updates

Bug day results are constantly updated in a spreadsheet. UNCO Graph continues to look good - dropped ~250 bugs in 1.5 months.

Last Bug Day Thursday 1st May 2008

Next Bug Day Thursday 8th May 2008

Test Day

Thunderbird 3 Alpha 1 testday to be decided, once Rick comes up with the Alpha builds.

  • We can always change Bug Days to Test Days late in the day if specific items need testing.

Roundtable

Improvement of Start page for future Alphas

  • Proposed by Ron K on the previous bugday session.
  • bug 430762 filed to track this idea.
  • Would be good to have especially if http hosted.

davida:

  • Set up a ui-review flag, so that the bugs where UI review is really needed can be flagged up to Bryan.

Standard8:

  • Located some memory leak issues bug 431404, bug 431414
  • Removed some dead code bug 431415
  • Password Manager
    • Started tidying up the SMTP service/url code and related items in preparation to help Password Manager migration (wallet -> toolkit) work.
    • Will need some detailed look at.
  • Unit Tests bug 406227
    • 2 out of 5 bugs now fixed.
    • 1 bug has patch that needs extending and test case
    • I have a basic understanding of at least the causes of the failures for the other 2 bugs.
  • Want to look at this week:
    • Review policy/Guidelines proposal for tests in mailnews (in co-ordination with dmose?)
    • Get (updated) patches up for all of the remaining unit test bugs
    • Password Manager
    • Possibility for Ts tests

nth10sd:

  • Preparation for QA testday in view of Thunderbird 3 Alpha 1, IRC meeting held
    • Bought improved hardware (Memory & disk space) for testing in VMs
    • Also prepared QA wiki pages for the alpha release, formulated QA testplan
  • Release notes now done by davida
  • Patches for some trivial UI naming issues bug 218500, bug 249620
  • Occasional bug triage
    • Testday coming up on Thursday, hopefully we'll have Alpha 1 bits out.

Attendees