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SeaMonkey Meeting Details


  • Who's taking minutes? -> TBD
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • TBD

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.


  • Callek needs to talk to sheeri someone about public SeaMonkey dataviz pages not working.


  • bug 1081726 Donation link on website needs to be change to point to SeaMonkey Paypal donation page. Blocked on mcsmurf getting a new CVS website account, looks like his old one has expired.
  • (bug 956561); move blog to [DONE]
    • Now live with new design and branding.
    • Some progress with the SSL certificate issue. With the certificate, things would work easier as mcsmurf wants to sync the blog with Facebook entries.
  • Callek has been in discussions with MoCo on whether we (SM) can make use of Firefox Accounts.
    • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager
      • mcsmurf says he has a short term workaround for this.
  • bug 1057920 SeaMonkey's CVS dependency really should be removed. (currently used only for Releng Automation, and SeaMonkey Website).
    • This has been spun off into a separate bugs for the website and the rest. For the website it looks like we'll be going mercurial rather than svn (as that is the way the mozilla people would prefer it too).


Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • Windows nightly trunk builds arewere running again briefly (thanks to Callek and Ewong) but are down again due to bug 1108970. Migrating our Windows builders to VS2013 would likely solve this and other bustages.
  • VS2010 support was removed from mozilla-central on 15th December (bug 1092468). Our Windows slaves are in the process of being upgraded to Win2008 and VS2013 (bug 1114876). There are also some upcoming changes to L10n build system in Q1 2015 (bug 1107635).
  • Buildmaster is up and running, and produces en-US builds, see 9/16 meeting's Friends of the Fish Tank. Builds and langpacks in 18 languages including en-US are available unofficially thanks to A.Kalla. Edit: However, only 9 languages are published daily for trunk there, and en-GB is not one of them. For Aurora I didn't check. — Tonymec (talk) 16:49, 21 January 2015 (PST)
  • bug 1083689 Langpacks aren't updated when auto-updating SeaMonkey. The langpacks need strict versioning e.g. min 2.30 max 2.30.* which makes sense since you don't want 2.29 strings with 2.30. This is possibly a build config problem so we should check with Callek, ewong, or KaiRo.
    • The de and en-GB langpacks for 2.30 have:
      2.22 had:
    • [IanN and RSX11M] There was a change in one of the scripts that generates the language pack files (the underlying issue was truncated version numbers introduced by Firefox) so it needs to be adjusted to take SeaMonkey into account.
  • Due to the master having some mysql issues, Callek has put a halt on the mysql updates, which affects the tbpl. So nothing is showing in TBPL atm.
  • [20th January 2015]
  • See RelEng page for the RelEng status history.
  • In Bug 902876 Comment 12 Mcsmurf is waiting for feedback from the build team on how to proceed.

Release Train

  • SeaMonkey 2.32b1 was released on December 16, 2014.
  • SeaMonkey 2.32b2 was released on December 21, 2014.
  • SeaMonkey 2.32b3 was released on January 4, 2015.
  • SeaMonkey 2.32 final was released on January 13, 2015.
  • Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: Releases Scheduling

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings
  • AMO and addon-signing. All addons will have to be signed, uploaded to AMO then reviewed by AMO editors including extensions not hosted on AMO. Otherwise they'll be disabled. Discussion in mozilla.addons.user-experience
  • Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey
    This tool goes a little further beyond simply modifying install.rdf - it also identifies a few more other things in the code that are Firefox or Thunderbird specific and attempts to change them. Of course, not all extensions can be ported so easily to SeaMonkey since there's only so much an automated tool like that can do.
    •  !This item should be moved to somewhere more permanent and discoverable!
  • New versions of Flashblock for Firefox and SeaMonkey have been released to address a regression caused by bug 1050049.
  • Current Lightning 3.6b1 builds offered on AMO don't work with the 2.31 release (bug 1081534, bug 1106034, bug 1107865)
    • Workaround is to install the version from 3.6b1-candidates/build3/
    • Lightning 3.7b1 builds for SM 2.32 release are expected may be released this week [1].
  • The Thunderbird team is planning to ship Lightning with Thunderbird. IanN thinks we will want to ship lightning too. We should coordinate with Thunderbird.
  • Proposed replacement for Venkman for shipping with SeaMonkey: Tiny JavaScript Debugger. TinyJSD is a JavaScript debugger for privileged code running Mozilla products like Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey. It serves to debug the application as well as extensions written in JavaScript.
    • Consensus is that we should ship TJSD as a replacement for Venkman. The next step is to contact the author.
  • bug 957149 DOM Inspector 2.0.15 released on 12th December. Ratty took over from IanN and finished preparing DOMi 2.0.15 for release [2].
  • Our build team needs to automate DOMI branch selection rather than having to tweak the every 6 weeks. bug 763506

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

  • SeaMonkey Statistics can be viewed at Across all channels we have an approximate ADU of 120k.
    • Callek needs to talk to sheeri about public SeaMonkey dataviz pages not working.
  • See Basics page for the usual reminders.


open tracking (0) tracking requests (1) targeted (2) fixed (18)


  • Stalled. Needs a kick.
    • bug 815954 Click-to-Play: Port bug 812562 (click-to-play blocklisted plugins: reshow urlbar notification as with normal click-to-play).
    • bug 476108 GetShortPathNameW fails under some NTFS junctions [patchlove].
  • Current breakages:
    • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager needs an owner
    • bug 995737 adapt seamonkey for the address book remote content policy change; use permission manager instead of address book property.
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Our front end Sync UI needs to be updated as the old backend is going away in Gecko/Firefox 31. See: New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly. Tracked in:
      • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
      • bug 1003434 Add support for about:sync-progress.
    • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • The C++ downloads manager backend nsIDownloadManager is being decommissioned. Firefox has migrated to jsdownloads. Thunderbird is in the process of migrating. We need to decide how we are going to handle this sooner rather than later.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 29 new, 9 fixed, 6 triaged.

  • Low triaging effort, average number of new bugs filed.
  • IanN thinks it would be useful to remind people on the newsgroups / forums that they can contribute by triaging. Tonymec will post a reminder to newsgroups / forums. See bug 1092632 (Sm_tri_HowTo) Document how to triage SeaMonkey bugs.
    • The draft is currently at
    • Progress is stalled due to hardware/firmware problems with Tonymec's current computer. Current ETA for newer computer is after Easter but this is a rough estimate. Anyone with a wikimoz account can edit the page (and is welcome to). — Tonymec (talk) 17:35, 21 January 2015 (PST)

Open reviews/flags: 32 review 5 super-review 4 ui-review 8 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
  • TODO: We will need to update our Sync UI code due to the new Sync API. Also we need to check if we are allowed to create FX accounts from our UI Since the new Sync accounts are FX accounts.[IanN] I'm sure I saw a question about FX accounts and branding. Callek was going to ask about being able to use Firefox accounts.

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).




  • review:
    • bug 1120067 -- RSS (2.0?) feeds not updating and not being added.
    • bug 1106536 --- Replace remaining use of obsolete dialogOverlay.xul, in SeaMonkey (/suite/browser/metadata.xul)


  • Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Fixed:
  • Fixed for c-c:
  • Fixed for m-c:
  • Fixed for m-i:
  • Pending check in:
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Waiting for feedback/review/information:
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
  • Working on:
    • bug 1051642 Allow for flat chrome format when packaging extensions
    • bug 943335 [TB] Update icons used in searchplugins (Yahoo, eBay, Wikipedia, Amazon, Bing, Twitter)
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with --enable-tests.







Checked in to comm-central, uplifted to comm-aurora:

  • bug 870556 Try to improve performance of the IMAP download queue.
  • bug 1101978 Deal with removal of the plugin finder service (string tweaks).
  • bug 558659 Support IMAP Special-Use folders.
  • bug 11039 Filter Sent messages.

Checked in to comm-central, uplifted to comm-aurora, checked in to comm-beta:

Working on:

  • bug 1121678 Add a menuitem to open a bookmark in a private window.

Still waiting for review:



2014-12-09 to 2014-12-23

Working on:

  • bug 640420 Add draggable splitter between urlbar and searchbar.
  • bug 917725 Consolidate utils.js and PlacesUIUtils.jsm.
  • bug 1040910 Support XHTML in feed titles.

Waiting for review:

  • bug 1097818 Add search suggestions to the DuckDuckGo search engine.


  • bug 1098639 Arrow panels in SeaMonkey should not animate when opening.
  • bug 1110036 "Save As" stops working from "Page Info" > "Media" pane. Progress of downloading is 0% forever [Firefox].
  • bug 1106274 Go history menu items end up at the bottom of the menu and not between the startHistorySeparator and endHistorySeparator.
  • bug 1112690 Make the dialog for "Edit/New Attribute" Resizable.
  • bug 1114070 After bug 783829 PlacesUtils.nodeAncestors is now a new generator.
2014-12-23 to 2015-01-06

Working on:

  • bug 640420 Add draggable splitter between urlbar and searchbar.
  • bug 1040910 Support XHTML in feed titles.
  • bug 1117577 Bookmarks Manager, Tools, Restore, Choose file... does not recognize .json4lz.
  • bug 1115036 Update el (Greek) locale for DOM Inspector.


  • bug 917725 Consolidate utils.js and PlacesUIUtils.jsm.
  • bug 1097818 Add search suggestions to the DuckDuckGo search engine.
  • bug 1112196 In TopLevelImageDocument.css use img.transparent instead of img.decoded.
  • bug 1112205 SidebarTogglePanel() should ignore nodes that aren't panel headers and aren't panel menuitems.
  • bug 1115023 After bug 1066383 the navigator context menu is huge.
  • bug 1115572 Add newChannel2 (that takes loadinfo as an argument) to suite protocol handlers.
  • bug 1115575 Error: formatURLPref: Couldn't get pref:
2015-01-06 to 2015-01-20

Working on:


  • bug 1115036 Update el (Greek) locale for DOM Inspector.
  • Backed out bug 1115575 Prefs have been moved to core/toolkit.
  • bug 1116097 Selected profile not remembered in profiles.ini (regression)
  • bug 1117577 Bookmarks Manager, Tools, Restore, Choose file... does not recognize .json4lz.
  • bug 1118194 Clicking Validate link on Feed Subscriptions dialog does nothing.
  • bug 1122702 JavaScript Error: "invalid value for aNodeOrItemId" from PlacesUIUtils.jsm.
  • bug 1122934 Followup to bug 1074021 Tidy up and sync with Firefox nsBrowserApp.

Other stuff:

  • Did some reviews.
  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.


Fixed on trunk, merged into aurora:

  • bug 1102576 Extend help for tracking protection by descriptions for new notification bar and its preference.
  • bug 1108189 Color preference pane needs to be adjusted after bug 639134 changed boolean "browser.display.use_document_colors" to tristate "browser.display.document_color_use". (strings only)

Fixed on trunk, waiting to be pushed to comm-aurora:

  • bug 1108189 Color preference pane needs to be adjusted after bug 639134 changed boolean "browser.display.use_document_colors" to tristate "browser.display.document_color_use". (code and help)

Waiting for review:

  • bug 912216 Temporarily disable CONDSTORE support for GMail. (MailNews)


  • bug 1032302 8BITMIME keyword ignored in EHLO greeting, BODY=8BITMIME absent in MAIL request for 8-bit transfers. (MailNews)


  • Bug triage, testing, and commenting for SeaMonkey and MailNews Core.
  • End-user information and discussion on MozillaZine.




  • Some bug reporting and followup
  • Computer will only start with "Fan: Silent (but may reduce CPU performance)" in the BIOS. Performance is indeed much reduced. (For instance, I've stopped updating Lightning because going from one build of that XPI to the next took 7 hours, not including the download.) — Tonymec (talk) 17:46, 21 January 2015 (PST)

Any other business?

  • The December 23, 2014 and January 6, 2015 meetings got cancelled due to holidays
  • New review policy for packaging fixes ( Due to the general unavailability of the team members who usually review these changes (mcsmurf, Callek), Ratty will be available for reviewing packaging fixes or do them himself with a rs=packaging fix..