Apps/StatusMeetings/Engineering/2012-10-31

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P1 Firefox OS Basecamp

  • Significant Updates
    • More dev doc bugs incoming - Tracking Bug
    • Note - Custom CSP support has landed - make sure you understand the impact in your relevant area
    • Dogfooding, Unagi, and FF OS with Apps and Marketplace
    • 3rd Party App Updates for FF OS has landed
    • Update from Infrastructure? (Toby or Mark?)
    • payments (caitlin)
  • Checkin/Status on Major Challenges
  • Questions and Concerns
    • Need to come to final decision on clarity on JWT validation for payments - keep what we have, or pull it onto the server?
    • Have we really finalized the user stories for the trustworthy UI in payments? - bug 806425
  • Suggestion to add Triage to this meeting (Caitlin / David B)
    • FFOS B2G Marketplace

P2/3 Other Projects

  • Significant Updates
    • Android WebRT analyzed feedback - need to rethink uninstall app UX as top priority
    • Next week: Dev Ecosystem work week in Mountain View
      • Themes: reference apps initiative; MDN/Devhub integration
  • Checkin/Status on Major Challenges
    • Progress on Payments for Android?
  • Questions and Concerns
    • Any outstanding questions on feedback from Marketplace Aurora Release?
    • Need estimates for bringing packaged apps to Android
    • Need estimates for bringing app security model to Android

Minutes

dev doc bugs

custom CSP support

  • make sure you understand the impact in your relevant area
  • CSP is a content security policy
  • the ability for a privileged app to specify its own CSP
  • we apply a default CSP to all privileged and certified apps
  • this change lets apps apply their own policy to get apps working while we debug Gaia apps
  • will we disable it eventually?
  • we'll leave it in there as we wanted it anyway (in order to enable apps to restrict policies further)
  • so it'll remain available and be repurposed

dogfooding Marketplace

  • you should get a dogfooding device and dogfood the marketplace!
  • remotees can't get one for dogfooding yet
  • but employee developers can get one for developing by requesting one via Service Now

third-party app updates

  • landed on Gaia!
  • packaged third-party apps also working again
  • jsmith will be testing and providing feedback shortly
  • Marketplace is just about done except for signing
  • Marketplace not allowing packaged app uploads until they can sign packages
  • rtilder is working on the server-side code
  • after which there will be a small amount of server-side integration work for clouserw's team
  • self-signed certs

infrastructure

  • folks made wiki page listing many ways things can do wrong
  • f.e. what if a mysql master, elastic node, load balancer, etc. goes down
  • working on triaging, prioritizing, and addressing issues
  • https://wiki.mozilla.org/Marketplace/HAtesting
  • we are on track for system documentation
  • we are in analysis mode, on track to complete analysis
  • single point of failure testing
  • target dates for HA are in mid-february
  • kick-off meeting for analysis is tomorrow
  • target date for completing analysis is end of November
  • -> telliott to update meeting about status of HA analysis next week

payments

  • much to celebrate on payments and identity
  • identity patches have landed for Gaia
  • one issue remains, broken out into three blocking bugs
  • we're trying to fine-tune our interface with the trustee UI
  • zaach and jedp are in SF to hack on it today
  • five bugs outstanding out of a total of 40 to be feature-complete
  • server integration is just kicking off this week
  • pmpcat to meet with bango product/project managers this morning to plan next few weeks
  • robust sessions with product, UX, developers afterward
  • kumar well embedded in Bango structure
  • a few days behind feature-complete
  • but on track to meet feature-complete this week
  • there's a bug blocked on jcarpenter regarding trustworthy UI for payments
  • -> jsmith to ask cyee to look at trustworthy payments UI bug while jcarpenter is PTO
    • caseyyee@mozilla.com <-- his bug mail

JWT validation

  • bug on doing JWT (JSON Web Token) validation with no clear decision about how it is to be done
  • kumar raised concern about it and suggested moving validation to server
  • jsmith concerned that too much work being done on server
  • sicking agnostic
  • ladamski responsible for making decision and will follow up in bug

adding triage to this meeting

  • starting to get feedback on Marketplace (from B2G Test Drivers)
  • small set of feedback, but we need to start reviewing it
  • how about using this meeting to review feedback?
  • we seem to have the time for it
  • should last no more than fifteen minutes
  • there's already a test drivers meeting to review feedback collated by Michelle Luna
  • jsmith thinks we should break it out
  • also getting feedback from Android users
  • rfant thinks we should be able to review them quickly, prioritize, and assign
  • myk thinks this meeting is reasonable provided the feedback we review has been curated in advance
  • we're going to try this next week and see how it goes

Android WebRT feedback

  • need to rethink uninstall UX as top priority
  • lots of folks are confused about uninstallation
  • challenges due to constraints on Android
  • mfinkle is driving this work
  • current thinking is that this won't happen for November 20 release
  • some question about whether or not we'll make this available on beta
  • next week there will be a developer ecosystem workweek in mountain view
  • wenzel's entire team will be there along with people from MDN and product
  • https://ecosystem.etherpad.mozilla.org/2012Q4Onsite
  • join if you want!
  • themes: reference apps initiative; MDN/Devhub integration

Marketplace URL change

  • question about changing URL: marketplace.mozilla.org -> marketplace.firefox.com
  • if we have installs_allowed_from: marketplace.mozilla.org, and marketplace.mozilla.org 301s to marketplace.firefox.com, will the install be allowed?
  • sicking is the right person to ask; clouserw will ask him
  • jsmith will test if he has time and report findings to clouserw

payments for Android

  • nav.pay isn't on Android
  • how easy to implement nav.pay on Android?
  • probably best answered by fernando (?)
  • Android team is working through this
  • assuming we get nav.pay on Android, we need contract with payment provider
  • rfant is aware
  • we might be able to use a window.open()-based implementation of nav.pay
  • pmpcat and elancaster are pulling together kumar, jedp and android folks to discuss
  • question about when to implement payments and packaged apps
  • no concrete roadmap/timeline yet

Marketplace Aurora release issues

  • email jsmith if you have outstanding questions about issues that folks have raised

packaged apps on Android

  • folks working on it
  • join Android-specific Monday meeting to talk about it

app security model on Android

  • join Android-specific Monday meeting to talk about it

updates for packaged apps on Android

  • join Android-specific Monday meeting to talk about it

Actions

  • telliott to update meeting about status of HA analysis next week
  • jsmith to ask cyee to look at trustworthy payments UI bug while jcarpenter is PTO
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