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General

• Attendies:
  • TBD
• This meeting:
  • Chair: Henrik
  • Notes: DavidB

Last Weeks Action Items

• [DONE] DavidB/Henrik: Add section for goals review to weekly scrum pads
• [DROPPED] DavidB/Henrik: Start brainstorming for overall goals until end of 2012
  • Dropped for now to get started right away. Main reason is that the whole company is in a change we need a final understanding of our company-wide strategy first. Also it's now a team goal for Q4.
• [NEW] Dave: Cancel future endurance test meetings and incorporate updates into meeting template
• [DONE] Matt: Send out email for final goal definition deadline
• [DONE] DavidB: Send out email for proposals for Q4 goals

Roundtable

• Handling of meeting invites via calendar (zimbra vs. automation services) [Henrik]
• Which website to use nowish for weekly scrum pads? [Henrik]
• Finding Leads for Q4 goals projects [Henrik / David]
  • Remote Mechanism to trigger Mozmill tests for Firefox releases (Geo? / ?)
  • Prototype of a Fennec Driver (DavidB / Henrik?)
  • New Members and Mentors Pages (?? / ??)
  • CI system for daily and l10n Firefox Builds (Henrik / ??)
  • Selenium Grid (DavidB / ??)
  • Definition of long term team goals for 2012 (DavidB / Henrik)
• Community Stewards [Henrik]
  • What can we do to promote our work and hold community members?
  • How strong should our group be bound to QA vs. Automation (Dev)? Do we wanna join the already existent Tools and Automation group?
  • What about possible job descriptions for volunteers, i.e the newsletter
• Anyone want try automate the new Fennec UI with Robotium

Goals Overview

• Q4 2011: https://intranet.mozilla.org/QA/Q42011_QAgoals#QA_Automation_Services_Goals

Please mark topics which need to be discussed in the meeting as bold

Issues / Blockers

• No updates

Remote Mechanism to trigger Mozmill tests for Firefox releases

• No updates

Prototype of a Fennec Driver

• Have initial start of design in Selenium

New Members and Mentors Pages

• No updates

CI system for daily and l10n Firefox Builds

• No updates

Selenium Grid

• No updates

Definition of long term team goals for 2012

• No updates

Project Updates

Please mark topics which need to be discussed in the meeting as bold

Endurance Tests

• Current Work
  • In Progress
  • Landed Recently
  • Backlog
  • Regressions
  • Failing Tests
• Discussion Items

Infrastructure

• Shadow test server
  • vsftpd configured (including ssl) for mozqa.com and defaults to Limtus data directory for anonymous access.
• Cloud Automation
  • No updates this week
• Mozmill Infrastructure
  • Mac Minis are on site but are still being configured by IT. Being added to existing Macs in floor 2 server room.
  • HP servers are on site but have not been racked in foor 3 server room yet.

Case Conductor (TCM)

• No updates

Mozmill

Feedback from Firefox Desktop Automation team

• All locales test-run cannot be executed due to resource issues on machines (bug 658509)

Shared Modules

• No updates

API Refactor

• Handful of basic platform technical issues (node finding, module loading) identified over last couple of weeks. Isolating and getting attention on them via A-Team and further to understand need for workarounds and fixes.

Automation Scripts

• No updates

Dashboard

• No updates

Mozmill Crowd

• No updates

On-demand Testing

• Project significantly expanded (maybe even re-oriented) for Q4 goal.
• Are in the requirements-gathering stage of the Q4 project.
• Currently investigating use of Jenkins and similar tools, as well as understanding whether we can fulfill both CI and on-demand goals through same/overlapping systems.

Others

• Pre-configured Mozmill Environment
  • Investigation and documentation for requirements can be found on the wiki page.
  • It's not that easy to transplant from the Add-ons SDK because it already requires Python to be installed. But further experimentation already solved the problem on OS X with xtools. On Windows the py2exe tool should help.

Selenium

• Grid
• Mobile

Other

• E.g. JMeter

Personal Status

For the personal status please check the weekly status updates:

• 111010 - 111014
• 111017 - 111021

Meeting Notes

The meeting notes for this meeting can be read in the following etherpad:

• https://etherpad.mozilla.org/qa-auto-meeting-20111019

Action items

• [DONE] Henrik to update calendar
• [NEW] Geo schedule and drive discussion with the rest of group so we can update goals around the community
• [NEW] EMail John Hammink on Robotium and CC QA-Staff