Mobile Web Compatibility - 2013-07-08 Minutes

Tracked Actions

• [jsmith] Follow up on Instagram bug 871318
  • [jsmith] Tried email, bug contact forum, and twitter account. No response.
• [DONE] [lmandel] Build a list of bugs for new web compatibility engineer to investigate
  • one for platform investigation - see 90% Mobile Compatibility for the Alexa Top 1000 Sites
  • one for tech evangelism (ie. UA Override) - see Wipe Out UA Overrides

Site Testing, Evangelism & Communication Status

Success!

• espn.go.com now recognizes B2G as mobile (bug 828431) - Thanks to Karl for verifying
• 20minutos.es now recognizes B2G as mobile (bug 828390) - Thanks to Anthony Ricaud for verifying
• Julien Wajsberg contacted wap.ratp.fr, who have passed on the information to the dev team and responded that they will update their local copy of WURFL in order to recognize Firefox mobile clients (bug 887856)
  • Note that this site is apparently in maintenance mode and therefore they are unwilling to invest in changes to follow Mozilla's suggested best practices

Open issues

• bug 888764 - Google SearchTools menu unhides then immediately hides again making it useless
  • aaronmt - do we know that this is not a Firefox issue?
• We're making progress with YouTube. See bug 887454 for status of the UA override

New issues from E.me

Great to see Everything.me filing bugs directly. We should continue to work with these contributors to integrate them in the process.

• bug 890837 New: m.elcorteingles.es doesn't display correctly in Gaia browser
• bug 890842 New: www.rumbo.es doesn't display correctly in Gaia browser
• bug 890858 New: es.qdq.com doesn't display correctly in Gaia browser
• bug 890864 New: mibebeyyo.com doesn't display correctly in Gaia browser
• bug 890871 New: shop.mango.com/mobile/preHome.faces doesn't display correctly in Gaia browser
• bug 890873 New: yfrog.com doesn't display correctly in Gaia browser
• bug 888708 New: www.msz.gov.pl/en doesn't display correctly in Gaia browser
• bug 888706 New: m.plus.pl doesn't display correctly in Gaia browser
• bug 888703 New: es.ask.com doesn't display correctly in Gaia browser
  • General issue for ask.com
• bug 888701 New: m.cinecolombia.com/movil doesn't display correctly in Gaia browser
• bug 888209 New: m.bumeran.com.co doesn't display correctly in Gaia browser
• bug 888207 New: m.atrapalo.com doesn't display correctly in Gaia browser
• bug 888203 es.wikia.com/Wikia doesn't display correctly in Gaia browser
• bug 887788 New: m.starmedia.com doesn't display correctly in Gaia browser
• bug 887782 New: elimpulso.com doesn't display correctly in Gaia browser
• bug 887751 New: di.com.pl doesn't display correctly in Gaia browser
• bug 887739 New: m.ofeminin.pl doesn't display correctly in Gaia browser
• bug 887710 New: movil.es.msn.com/device/ doesn't display correctly in Gaia browser
• bug 887684 New: muyahorro.com doesn't display correctly in Gaia browser
• bug 887224 New: elmundo.es/movil2 doesn't display correctly in Gaia browser
• bug 886125 New: nme.com doesn't display correctly in Gaia browser
• bug 886121 New: m.fool.com doesn't display correctly in Gaia browser

New issues (other)

• bug 887294 netvibes.com doesn't recognize Mobile Site on Firefox Android and Firefox OS

Gecko Specific Issues

• UA override B2G 1.1 checklist item bug 890004
  • Final date to add/remove UA overrides from B2G 1.1 is July 15
• bug 890577 Can't view full size versions of photos at Flickr - blassey marked for investigation
• bug 884558 Vimeo videos play in Everything.me app, but not in Browser - interesting bug, any ideas?

• Identify gaps between Gecko and WebKit to drive outreach and changes in the engine
  • Starter lists can be generated from:
    • See http://caniuse.com/ and https://github.com/fyrd/caniuse
    • http://www.browserscope.org/

Other Issues (tools, general, ...)

• Introduction of Karl Dubost
  • Karl has joined the mobile Web compatibility team to handle Web Content Partner Relations. Karl comes to us via Opera and the W3C.
  • View his introduction during the Mozilla Project Meeting (23:00)

• New B2G UA override test script from Karl includes the ability to list and search for overrides https://gist.github.com/karlcow/5917783

• 51Degrees (UA detection framework) is running the Search for the Heaviest Mobile Website competition. The person who finds the heaviest site wins $1000.

• Discussion: How do we measure success?
  • Get rid of UA override list?
  • Site equivalence based on a list of sites (Alexa data, Everything.me data, other?)
  • Mind share for Web compatibility, community around Web compatibility issues (blog posts, talks, …)?
  • Less than x new Web sites with Web compatibility issue a week?
  • Recursion issues?
  • Tools, Documentation enabling a Web compatibility community?