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= Discussion Items =  
= Discussion Items =  
* Personal Q4 Goals
** If you havent filled out your [https://intranet.mozilla.org/QA/Q42009_QAgoals#Individual_Goals individual Q4 goals] (or made final tweaks), please do so this week.  [you know who you are!]    Remember, your goals should reflect that of the QA All and Team Execution Goals listed at the top
* Current Priorities check
* Current Priorities check
*# Crashes.  The no.1 priority is Firefox crash investigation
*# Crashes.  The no.1 priority is Firefox crash investigation.  See [https://wiki.mozilla.org/CrashKill/QA Craskill wiki].
*# Fx 1.9.1.4 testing.  There are 142 fixed bugs, with 78 that need verification for this release.  Al and team is overwhelmed, so please assist with verifications as much as you can.  This is going to affect the current user set, so we need to make sure the top bugs at least are not regressing
*** (Additional notes by tomcat here)
*# Fennec & 3.6 work.   We need to keep pushing hard on testing features and solidifying the betas before we ship.  But the top 2 come first if you have to
*# Fx3.6 beta work. quicker beta cycles coming soon.  Testing still needed around major components and fix verifications  
*** (more discussion below by juanb)
*# Fennec b5 work.  A beta 5 is coming today or tomorrow.  includes ~10 locales.  Extra sets of eyes will help
*** (Additional notes by aakashd below)
*# Fx 3.5.5 testing. Al and team are working on release testing this week
*# Your other work you have.  Put them on a temporary backseat if you can.
*# Your other work you have.  Put them on a temporary backseat if you can.


* VERIFIED keyword? (tchung, aakash)
* QMO Forum topic fields (aakashd)
** See [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.quality/browse_thread/thread/f68ec92a87c91959 discussion thread] in mdq
** currently, non-admin users cannot create forum topics. they can only comment in them.  reasons is to block spam, but is this the best use of forum topics?
** What's the best usage of qa's time when verifying bugs? What is the rate of reopening a bug? Should we just stick to branch only?
** '''Discussion''' - start by gathering some data on how much bugs are getting verified.  then go about having a discuss.  '''Timr, Murali''' to start thread 


* Firefox Release prioritization
* Shorter 3.next beta cycles (juanb)
** Tentative assignments
** Starting next week, we are looking at shorter beta cycles. How does this impact qa?
*** 10/9 - 10/15: Firefox 3.6b1:  (Timr lead), Anthony (part-time), Aakash, raymond, murali.  Tegra: (Tony lead)
*** 10/6 - 10/13: Firefox 3.0.14, Firefox 3.5.4: (Al lead), Henrik , Gabriela
** Beta by friday?
** If delayed to next week,  
*** Firefox 3.6b1: (juanb lead), tony, marcia, anthony (part-time). Tegra (marcia lead)


* Remote access to Lab Machines
* Remote access to Lab Machines (marcia, raymond)
** '''Raymond''' can do this next week, work with '''marcia''' to set priorities
** any new updates?
** Request which ones to prioritize first?  [https://wiki.mozilla.org/MozillaQualityAssurance:QA_Machines#QA_Machines_Inventory (See Inventory)]
*** '''Raymond''' can do this next week, work with '''marcia''' to set priorities
** Machines will be opened on the team via VPN
*** Request which ones to prioritize first?  [https://wiki.mozilla.org/MozillaQualityAssurance:QA_Machines#QA_Machines_Inventory (See Inventory)]
*** Machines will be opened on the team via VPN


* QA m-v move
* VM updates
** Testdev moved to 2nd floor, WebQA moved to webdev area. 
** Any discussion on cleaning up old vms?
** What's the best plan for QAE?
** Al has issued Fusion3 licenses to team.  has been distributed
 
* VM Ware update
** Al updated the virtualization page.  VMware 3.0 possible early october


= Project Updates =
= Project Updates =
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* Firefox 3.6 (juanb)
* Firefox 3.6 (juanb)
** code freeze tonight (very subject to change)
** update?
*** We must try to get any litmus tests for new features done as soon as possible, in order to guide volunteers to test.
*** Create test cases as you go through your feature verifications. Tests don't have to be completely fleshed out, for now.
*** Try to complete test plans; update completion percentage numbers.


* Tegra (marcia)  
* Tegra (marcia)  
** Newer Mobinnova OS image delivered and installed
** update?
** 1 blocking issue: bug 518408 - need update snippets offered
** This week: mochitests on mobinnova, followed by reftests.  testdev got it working on the breadboard.


* Fennec (aakashd)
* Fennec (aakashd)
** Maemo Beta 4 was released on Monday Night
** update?
*** E-mail sent out to mobile mailing list as well as personal e-mails for mobile drivers
*** Pages went live yesterday, but stephend didn't know anything about it
** Code Freeze for Beta 5 schedule for 11/2 and Beta 5 release for 11/5 or 11/9


* WebQA (stephend)
* WebQA (stephend)
** Working on:
** update?
*** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/AMO:Meeting_Notes AMO 5.2]
*** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Support/SUMOdev_Meeting_Notepad SUMO 1.4.1]
*** [http://jetpack.stage.mozilla.com/ Jetpack site]
*** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mozilla_CRM/QA Mozillians CRM]
 


* Mozmill Testcase automation (henrik)
* Mozmill Testcase automation (henrik)
*** BFT: Blocked (2), Assigned (3), Fixed (65 - 32.3%), Not Doable (43) => Target (70 - 5 left which are covered by working software update tests), 6 subgroups finished
** update?
*** Mozmill talk in Prague was a success as given by Marcia. [http://www.hskupin.info/2009/10/06/mozmill-meets-l10n-slides-available/ Blog post] with slides are available
*** Fixed a couple of blocking bugs lately (default profile)
*** Looking for another minor release of Mozmill by this week
*** Planning for Q4 as soon as possible


* QMO & Community (marcia, aakashd)
* QMO & Community (marcia, aakashd)
** [http://quality.mozilla.org/events/2009/oct/29/testday-test-scripting-mozmill-day-1 FSOSS + Mozmill Testscripting Testday] is going to happen on 10/29-10/30
** update?
** [http://quality.mozilla.org/events/2009/nov/20/testday-alpha-test-next-version-litmus Litmus 2 Testday] is looking to be a joint L10n + QA Focus Group Litmus 2 Testday
** [http://ih.ca.campusgrid.net/home/Academies%2B&%2BMagnets/Electronics Jack Aiello] from Independence High School came in to HQ to talk logistics
** Need some head-way for [http://quality.mozilla.org/events/2009/dec/04/testday-qa-test-pilot Test Pilot Testday] Ideas ([https://wiki.mozilla.org/Labs/Test_Pilot Proposals], Unit Tests, etc.)
*** Presentation looks to be on either 10/22 or 11/05 for the Electronics Academy there
** Crowd-Source Community T-Shirt designs for different groups of QA?


* Accessibility (marcoz)
* Accessibility (marcoz)
** Firefox 3.5.4 a11y fix verified.
** update?
** Firefox 3.6B1 fixes verified.
** No a11y fixes for 3.0.15.


* QA Metrics ( Murali )
* QA Metrics ( Murali )
** Created bug fixes trend by developer / by group and added it to the dashboard.
** update?
*** These reports would show the number of blocker/non-blocker bugs fixed by developer in the last 24 weeks.
** Creating a "Details of Comments made by Engineer" in BugZilla in the last 30 days reports section this week.


= Round Table =
= Round Table =
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