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Thunderbird Meeting Details :


Action Items



  • Autoconfig process
    • Webapp currently being tested to fix some initial problems, will open up for broader testing soon
    • davida will be working with gozer on moving the webapp into a preview release
    • hopefully getting some review time from a django person
    • bwinton has been coordinating with Greg and students at U Toronto
      • 5 students across Canada
    • Join the ISPDB Google Group to participate in the discussion


Thunderbird 3 Beta 4

  • Note: SeaMonkey requests that mailnews/ and suite/ strings are frozen between Thursday 27th August 23:59 PST and Wednesday 2nd September for their 2.0b2 release.
    • Standard8 has checked [has l10n impact] bugs - all appear to be specific TB strings only.
    • If you need to land strings bugs during that period and are unsure what to do, check with Standard8.
  • Freeze Dates:
    • Slushy Code Freeze: Monday 7th Sept 23:59 PDT.
    • Full String Freeze: Wed 9th Sept 23:59 PDT.
    • Code Freeze: Friday 11th Sept 23:59 PDT.
    • l10n Complete: Monday 14th Sept 23:59 PDT.
    • Release builds start: Tues 15th Sept.
  • Release Driver: Standard8
  • Build Engineer: gozer

Thunderbird 3

  • Schedule (proposed, may change nearer b4):
    • Final l10n String Freeze: Tuesday 29th Sept 23:59 PST
    • Approvals/Blockers only: from Tuesday 6th October 23:59 PST
    • Aiming to start RC1 builds on: 3rd Nov.
    • Subsequent RCs as necessary.
  • Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.
  • If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.

QA Updates

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Marketing Updates

IT update

  • New OS X builder
    • momo-vm-osx-leopard-05
  • Prioritized builders
    • nightly > comm-1.9.1 > l10n
  • Code Signing
  • still has reliability issues this week bug 511258
    • Some spurious bustage as a result
    • The bug is closed, but we are still seeing intermittent issues


  • mostly off sick last week
  • good MDC usability discussion with a new extension developer:
    • cruft in search results (ie, Google) - not apparent that MDC is the most reliable doc source
    • MDC navigation issues - no page hierarchy, therefore breadcrumbs aren't useful and "portal" pages are hard to find unless you navigate from the main page
    • not obvious that MDC is a wiki and that people are encouraged to comtribute
    • following up with Sheppy
  • general MDC problems last week (per Sheppy's blog post)
  • continuing with tutorial / FUEL / STEEL / SMILE


  • Top 5 GS Support Topics: to be filled in by Roland
  • Support Day: September 3, 2009, 9:30-5p.m. Pacific in #thunderbird and #gsfn (for meta & how to use get satisfaction topics)
  • Key Support stats from the following graphic:
    • will be higher in general, lower this week because we erroneously had link going to mozilla GS instead of MoMoGS for a few days
    • approximately 15 topics a day (I think after switching link to MoMo GS it will be about 20/day, lots of activity last weekend)
    • total new topics:69 total replies: 95 - means we are making progress in clearing backlog
    • #replies from non MoMo folks: approximately 30 (approximately 25 from Tom; hand counted since there's no way to get it easily)
    • researching better and more metrics e.g. number of new users



Status Updates

  • Code reviews
  • Iterated on various message header patches
  • Driving
  • Board meeting related work
  • Some Holiday
  • Reviews & Driving
  • LDAP Autoconfig (aka MCD) is now ready for TB 3 (bug 502597)
  • Various Content Tab improvements/fixes bug 513654, bug 513653
  • bug 505705 Window layout position and columns not remembered after each exit (using Vertical view, width, persist).
  • bug 504552 Default tab show only a message and no other panes - provide some error handling for when the quick search menu gets confused.
  • Some trunk bustage fixes (bug 512763
  • gloda search faceting
  • Reviews and Driving
  • Made autosync date constraints be per-server.
  • Fixed threading with quick search and augment the view unit test to test quick search threading.
  • Fixed various causes of corruption of offline imap store, bug 468595, plus limited unit test.
  • Re-enable imap subscription for servers that support xlist, bug 493455
  • Try to get DB in HasMsgOffline in case someone has cleared the cached db pointer out from under gloda, bug 512414
  • Fix check for new pop3 mail when download on check not set, bug 458625
  • Potential fix for top crash in nsMsgDBView::FindHdr, bug 503854
  • Don't create duplicate Archives folder if there's an existing archive folder (i.e., folder with a different case name), bug 484329

Next week Reviews and b4 blockers.

  • Build
    • New OS X builder (momo-vm-osx-leopard-05)
    • Prioritized builders
    • Signing automation
    • Release automation
    • Buildbot catchup work
      • buildbot/ updated in production
      • buildbotcustom/ updated in staging
    • l10n-repack duplicate builds bug 513735
  • Infrastructure
    • mail-test many more new accounts for folks bug 511878
  • ui-reviews
  • b4 blockers
  • compact header extension
  • Still edging toward release of Eudora 8 beta 7/Penelope 0.5 alpha 4.
  • Showstoppers appear to be fixed, and final builds are coming with an additional round of testing
  • drafted demo script for TB 3
  • in process with reviewer's guide w/ pr team
  • targeting web site content draft for this Friday for pascalc
  • keeping Jim Cook happy on TB 3 Beta 3

next week

  • meeting with Mozilla Europe/Barbara in person/mtn view for European press/press tour
  • On top of bugs
  • Working with Roland to figure out more Support <-> QA.
  • Preparing testing Sessions for b4.
  • This week:
    • Vista theme work
    • More gnomestripe fixes bug 505721
    • Gloda faceting css
    • Quick account setup css
    • Tags css fixes

Last week:

This week:


Last week:

  • moved two pages of support content from to
  • more GS backlog reduction
  • formal support plan - came up with list of items

This week: