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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

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  • Who's taking minutes? --> bwinton (roland owes me one!  ;)
  • Minute taking Schedule. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
  • Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!

Action Items

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to that she can send them a shirt!

JB nominates the tb-planning list. Since there are 180 of them, we'll be sending a virtual t-shirt to the list.  :)

Thunderbird Development

Feature Work

Test Pilot
Filelink (Big Files)
  • support has landed, disabled, in comm-central, and was uplifted to comm-aurora yesterday.
    • Brian King is working to get it functional and tested. If it gets to a satisfactory state, we'll enable it for TB 16.
Instant Messaging
  • Indexing of IM conversations in gloda on the fly landed recently on trunk, it's now possible to find IM conversations immediately without restarting.
  • That change, along with presence information in email headers and new messages notifications, was also pushed to aurora so it will be part of Thunderbird 15.

Google Summer of Code Projects

App Tabs for Thunderbird

- Session Persistence : DONE :D -> going to improve App Tab UI during the next week.

Improving GMail Integration
Get ISPDB into Production
'No reply' reminder for Thunderbird

Schedule and Progress

Beta Version

Extension of the week

QA Updates

Marketing Updates

  • MozCamp preparation continues
    • Most of the people who have been active have recieved an invitation.
      • If you didn't get yours, please get in touch with Anne-Marie.
    • Working on Friday's Thunderbird sessions.
      • It would be helpful for the Addon-Editors if we could figure out what times we want.
      • All Friday. A couple of timeslots on Saturday and Sunday, time depending on MozCamp organizers.

Build / Release Update

  • Thunderbird 14.0 and 10.0.6esr on deck for release
  • Working on bug 772446 - Migrate desktop linux firefox builds to mock slaves. Thunderbird will also benefit from these changes.

Web Update

  • Fiddling with release stuff.



  • At a SUMO event.
  • Will fill this out later.

Lightning Updates

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Roundtable Highlights

  • It's hard to view Thunderbird as a business, because the business aspects are quite closed.
    • On the other hand, the same is true with Firefox.
    • rkent feels that the problem with Thunderbird is a success as a product, but a failure as a business.
      • But the developers aren't being taken away because it's a business failure, it's that it doesn't drive the Mozilla mission.
      • And that's a failure to find the right organizational home, not a business failure.
  • rkent feels that Thunderbird's community strategy conflicts with Thunderbird's Mozilla's strategy?
    • (For instance) Mozilla seems to view the user as a single person checking their email casually at home.
    • But the typical Thunderbird user is someone trying to get something done at the office.
    • It seems to bwinton like the new direction for Thunderbird lines up better with the community's direction.
      • Less change, and the community will focus on the things that are important to it.
  • And then time kind of ran out, but we all feel that rkent should post to tb-planning to continue the discussion.