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'''Thunderbird Meeting Details'''&nbsp;:  
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details'''&nbsp;:  
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*Blockers/Wanted  
*Blockers/Wanted  
**{{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b4&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b4}} 80 (-2)  
**{{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b4&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b4}} 79 (-3)  
**b3ux TBD <!-- ** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 15 -->  
**b3ux TBD <!-- ** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 15 -->  
*Proposed Blocking (all milestones)  
*Proposed Blocking (all milestones)  
**{{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 71 (-8)  
**{{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 72 (-7)  
*Fixed:  
*Fixed:  
**{{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b4}} 19 (+12)
**{{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b4}} 20 (+13)


* Main things we want to land:
* Main things we want to land:
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**[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 147 (-2)  
**[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 147 (-2)  
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/chart.cgi?category=-All-&subcategory=-All-&name=1183&label0=Thunderbird+TB+3+Blockers&line0=1936&label1=MailNews+Core+TB+3+Blockers&line1=1937&gt=1&labelgt=Grand+Total&datefrom=2009-07-25&dateto=&action-wrap=Chart+This+List Chart]
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/chart.cgi?category=-All-&subcategory=-All-&name=1183&label0=Thunderbird+TB+3+Blockers&line0=1936&label1=MailNews+Core+TB+3+Blockers&line1=1937&gt=1&labelgt=Grand+Total&datefrom=2009-07-25&dateto=&action-wrap=Chart+This+List Chart]
**[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 9 (0)  
**[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 11 (+2)  
*Proposed Blocking  
*Proposed Blocking  
**{{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 71 (-8)
**{{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 72 (-7)
*Wanted
*Wanted
**{{trackinglist|Wanted Thunderbird 3|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|}} 248
**{{trackinglist|Wanted Thunderbird 3|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|}} 249


*Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.  
*Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.  
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** No new spike in crash-stats
** No new spike in crash-stats
* Had a normal bug day.
* Had a normal bug day.
* Monitoring crash-stat and filling bugs for it.
* Monitoring crash-stats and filling bugs for it.


This week working on :
This week working on :
* Weekly [Thunderbird:QA_Daysevent | with the community] will focus on dumpe tagged bug
* Weekly [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:QA_Days | with the community] will focus on bug tagged dupme
* Long term - come up with an overall strategy for upgrade path testing
* Long term - come up with an overall strategy for upgrade path testing


=== Marketing Updates  ===
=== Marketing Updates  ===
* Press Watch [http://webworkerdaily.com/2009/08/03/10-useful-thunderbird-add-ons-for-almost-everybody/ 10 Useful Thunderbird Add-ons for Almost Everybody]; reposted articles from Beta 3
* [http://www.rebron.org/2009/07/29/new-thunderbird-icon-iterations-4-6/ Icon update] Designer is on vacation, wrapping up final details (appearance with different sizes, a few more minor edits)
* Met with Mozilla Japan marketing team to get them up to speed on launch planning.
* Working through marketing messaging documents.


=== IT update  ===
=== IT update  ===
[[File:TB3B3-20090804.png|266px|thumb|right|[http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=taRdxUNpggImdcXVPSglgWg&gid=2 Thunderbird 3 Beta 3 Uptake]]]
* ISPDB Preview moving along
* [http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=ThunderbirdTest MozMill tests] have been going on comm-1.9.1 and comm-central for a week now
* Thunderbird 3 Beta 3 [http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=taRdxUNpggImdcXVPSglgWg&gid=2 Uptake Stats] are available and looking good
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=== Documentation  ===
=== Documentation  ===
* first day back from vacation - nothing to report


=== Roundtable  ===
=== Roundtable  ===
* All hands next week.


==== Status Updates  ====
==== Status Updates  ====


===== nth10sd  =====
===== nth10sd  =====
* Working a bit on Mozmill through a No. 8 Typhoon Signal.
* UNCOnfirmed [http://www.rumblingedge.com/2009/07/30/unconfirmed-thunderbird-bugs-now-under-2000/ TB bugs now below 2k]
* Found regression window for {{bug|501045}}
* qawanted {{bug|503987}}
* Usual bugdays, b.m.o cleanup, QA


===== sid0  =====
===== sid0  =====
* Landed {{Bug|501308}}.
* Fixed a couple of MozMill test failures: [http://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/ff945c5683e9 1] and [http://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/79eaac144a0b 2].
* Worked with humph to get {{bug|501045}} fixed.


===== davida  =====
===== davida  =====
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===== Standard8 =====
===== Standard8 =====


Next week:
* Reviews and driving
* Finished last patch to {{Bug|121647}} POP/IMAP server passwords are inappropriately forgotten.
* Fixed some intermittent test failures in test_sendBackground.js {{Bug|495776}}
* Came across and did some debugging on {{Bug|504552}} Default tab show only a message and no other panes.
* Starting to pick up send in background work again.


* Finish off {{Bug|121647}}
Next Week:
* Pick up send in background work again.
 
* Send in background


===== asuth  =====
===== asuth  =====
* Primarily [http://www.visophyte.org/blog/2009/08/03/using-vmware-recordreplay-and-vprobes-for-low-time-distortion-performance-profiling/ Performance Work]


===== bienvenu  =====
===== bienvenu  =====
* Reviews and Driving
* Worked on date constraints for auto-synced offline stores, {{bug|482476}}
* Fixed creation of special folders to set special folder flag which helps with localized folder name and special folder icons, {{bug|467527}}
* Bullet-proof one more libmime mimemult crash, {{bug|482879}}
* Add "mail-startup-done" notification to SM so mailnews core can use it {{Bug|487820}}
* Don't allow sub-folders or saved searches under smart folders inbox {{bug|490326}}
* Fixed topcrash in VirtualFolderChangeListener::OnHdrAdded, {{bug|383584}}
* Try to fix crash in GetInsertIndexHelper, by detecting failure to get db, {{bug|492571}}
* Finished code for imap undo of delete after expunge of source folder, working on tests.
* Add extra status to imap urls so that the backend code can get more information about the url status, add add status for flag adding/removal failure, part of {{bug|323875}}
* Make imap url hold a reference to the nsIFile it is operating on, to prevent crashes, {{bug|313026}}
* Fixed invalidation of view lines when moving threads on incoming mail, {{bug|504297}}
Next week
* Finish IMAP Undo w/ tests
* Land date-based autosync constraints


===== gozer  =====
===== gozer  =====
[[File:Thunderbird-cluster.jpg|140px|thumb|right|[http://www.sandia.gov/news/resources/releases/2006/thunderbird.html Thunderbird supercomputing cluster]]]
* Build
** Shipped Thunderbird 3 Beta 3 Updates
** Mozmill [http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/ThunderbirdTest/ running in staging]
** CCNightlyFactory / CCNightlyRepackFactory tested in staging
*** Will remove a lot of custom code
*** Will address lots of l10n build/repacks problems
*** Parallel l10n repacks
* Web
** ISPDB Preview in progress
*** Small tweaks and bugfixes
* Infrastructure
** Trying to repurpose the [http://www.sandia.gov/news/resources/releases/2006/thunderbird.html Thunderbird supercomputing cluster] for buildbot
** Better spam filtering for <i>@mozillamessaging.com</i> e-mail addresses


===== clarkbw  =====
===== clarkbw  =====
Last Week
* ui-reviews
* bugs
This Week
* continue with autoconfig iterations
* actually do the header refinement work


===== wsmwk  =====
===== wsmwk  =====
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===== KaiRo  =====
===== KaiRo  =====
* Positive feedback on my [http://home.kairo.at/blog/2009-07/decoupling_seamonkey_and_thunderbird_sch blog post on decoupling SM and TB schedules]
* Started making the last modifications for comm-central release automation available to everyone, see {{bug|508243}}


===== rkent  =====
===== rkent  =====


===== rebron  =====
===== rebron  =====
* Marketing messaging/launch planning.
* GS integration. 
* Web site updates for launch.
* Dashboard builder for Thunderbird metrics.


===== Tsk  =====
===== Tsk  =====
Last week:
* Looked up at ispdb
* Weekly event
* Tested updates
Upcoming week:
* Start launching upgrade testing effort
* Daily maintainance


===== andreasn  =====
===== andreasn  =====
* Last week
** Windows Vista theme work #507595, #506626, #506633, #506660, #507122
** Account setup layout #506290
* This week
** More Vista theme work #488060
** Look into WinXP theme feedback
** Linux theme fixes #505721
** Dialog sizes


===== bwinton =====
===== bwinton =====
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* Added unit tests for {{bug|465269}}.
* Added unit tests for {{bug|465269}}.
* Posted a screenshot for {{bug|495478}}
* Posted a screenshot for {{bug|495478}}
* Created {{bug|507386}} with patch.
* Created {{bug|507386}} and {{bug|508267}}, both with patches.


This week:
This week:
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===== roland =====
===== roland =====
Last Week:
* more Get Satisfaction (GS) integration (getting topics finally moved over, configuration of links, etc)
* meeting more folks (Mozy Tom, Ludo, Wayne Mery)
* changed link on mozillamessaging.com/support to point to mozillamessaging's GS
This Week:
* GS triage - goal is to do 50, need developer for triage help
* initial support process and plan presentation


=== Attendees  ===
=== Attendees  ===
davida,standard8,bienvenu,gozer,rebron,asuth,jenzed,nth10sd,sid0,clarkbw,beckley,kairo,rkent,tsk,andreasn,bwinton,roland


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Latest revision as of 17:08, 10 August 2009

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

Agenda

Action Items

New

Open

  • Autoconfig process
    • Webapp currently being tested to fix some initial problems, will open up for broader testing soon, i.e., move the webapp to a place where more people can access it.

Closed

Thunderbird 3 Beta 4

  • Release Driver: Standard8
  • Build Engineer: gozer
  • Main things we want to land:
    • gloda (by default)
    • background sending,
    • message headers improvements
    • autoconfig
      • With ispdb
      • locales string
    • autosync space/time policies sorted out.
  • This week will see more aggressive cutting down of the blocking and proposed bugs, figuring out what we don't really need for the release
  • Proposed Dates (any feedback to Standard8 please):
    • Friday, September 11th is the proposed target for code freeze
    • Tuesday September 22th, is the proposed estimated release day
    • Following with the final string freeze 1 week after release
    • RC1 proposed date Tuesday, November 3rd for code freeze
    • Final release dates will depend on RC1

Thunderbird 3

  • Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.
  • If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.

QA Updates

  • Worked on upates for B2 to B3
    • Large amount of users using b3
    • No new spike in crash-stats
  • Had a normal bug day.
  • Monitoring crash-stats and filling bugs for it.

This week working on :

  • Weekly | with the community will focus on bug tagged dupme
  • Long term - come up with an overall strategy for upgrade path testing

Marketing Updates

  • Press Watch 10 Useful Thunderbird Add-ons for Almost Everybody; reposted articles from Beta 3
  • Icon update Designer is on vacation, wrapping up final details (appearance with different sizes, a few more minor edits)
  • Met with Mozilla Japan marketing team to get them up to speed on launch planning.
  • Working through marketing messaging documents.

IT update

  • ISPDB Preview moving along
  • MozMill tests have been going on comm-1.9.1 and comm-central for a week now
  • Thunderbird 3 Beta 3 Uptake Stats are available and looking good







Documentation

  • first day back from vacation - nothing to report

Roundtable

  • All hands next week.

Status Updates

nth10sd
sid0
  • Landed bug 501308.
  • Fixed a couple of MozMill test failures: 1 and 2.
  • Worked with humph to get bug 501045 fixed.
davida
dmose
Standard8
  • Reviews and driving
  • Finished last patch to bug 121647 POP/IMAP server passwords are inappropriately forgotten.
  • Fixed some intermittent test failures in test_sendBackground.js bug 495776
  • Came across and did some debugging on bug 504552 Default tab show only a message and no other panes.
  • Starting to pick up send in background work again.

Next Week:

  • Send in background
asuth
bienvenu
  • Reviews and Driving
  • Worked on date constraints for auto-synced offline stores, bug 482476
  • Fixed creation of special folders to set special folder flag which helps with localized folder name and special folder icons, bug 467527
  • Bullet-proof one more libmime mimemult crash, bug 482879
  • Add "mail-startup-done" notification to SM so mailnews core can use it bug 487820
  • Don't allow sub-folders or saved searches under smart folders inbox bug 490326
  • Fixed topcrash in VirtualFolderChangeListener::OnHdrAdded, bug 383584
  • Try to fix crash in GetInsertIndexHelper, by detecting failure to get db, bug 492571
  • Finished code for imap undo of delete after expunge of source folder, working on tests.
  • Add extra status to imap urls so that the backend code can get more information about the url status, add add status for flag adding/removal failure, part of bug 323875
  • Make imap url hold a reference to the nsIFile it is operating on, to prevent crashes, bug 313026
  • Fixed invalidation of view lines when moving threads on incoming mail, bug 504297

Next week

  • Finish IMAP Undo w/ tests
  • Land date-based autosync constraints
gozer
  • Build
    • Shipped Thunderbird 3 Beta 3 Updates
    • Mozmill running in staging
    • CCNightlyFactory / CCNightlyRepackFactory tested in staging
      • Will remove a lot of custom code
      • Will address lots of l10n build/repacks problems
      • Parallel l10n repacks
  • Web
    • ISPDB Preview in progress
      • Small tweaks and bugfixes
clarkbw

Last Week

  • ui-reviews
  • bugs

This Week

  • continue with autoconfig iterations
  • actually do the header refinement work
wsmwk
beckley
Penelope
KaiRo
rkent
rebron
  • Marketing messaging/launch planning.
  • GS integration.
  • Web site updates for launch.
  • Dashboard builder for Thunderbird metrics.
Tsk

Last week:

  • Looked up at ispdb
  • Weekly event
  • Tested updates

Upcoming week:

  • Start launching upgrade testing effort
  • Daily maintainance
andreasn
  • Last week
    • Windows Vista theme work #507595, #506626, #506633, #506660, #507122
    • Account setup layout #506290
  • This week
    • More Vista theme work #488060
    • Look into WinXP theme feedback
    • Linux theme fixes #505721
    • Dialog sizes
bwinton

Last week:

This week:

roland

Last Week:

  • more Get Satisfaction (GS) integration (getting topics finally moved over, configuration of links, etc)
  • meeting more folks (Mozy Tom, Ludo, Wayne Mery)
  • changed link on mozillamessaging.com/support to point to mozillamessaging's GS

This Week:

  • GS triage - goal is to do 50, need developer for triage help
  • initial support process and plan presentation

Attendees

davida,standard8,bienvenu,gozer,rebron,asuth,jenzed,nth10sd,sid0,clarkbw,beckley,kairo,rkent,tsk,andreasn,bwinton,roland