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* New Hires & Interviews
* New Hires & Interviews
** 2 candidates in the pipeline for Bugmaster
** 2 candidates in the pipeline for Bugmaster
** 2 Web QA candidates in the pipeline
** Introduction of Matt the security guy
** Introduction of Matt the security guy
* Upcoming Events/Conferences
* Upcoming Events/Conferences
** item
** item
* Notices: Please check the holiday release schedule in the [https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2012/09/24/firefox-schedule-changes-around-year-end/ blog post] by Alex Keybl.


== [https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=j41a8ne525ml0heaipg0idb6is@group.calendar.google.com Travel / PTO] ==
== [https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=j41a8ne525ml0heaipg0idb6is@group.calendar.google.com Travel / PTO] ==
* rbillings Friday 10/5 half-day
* rbillings Friday 10/5 half-day
* krupa is on vacation from 10/17-11/07
* krupa is on vacation from 10/17-11/07
* jammink on vacay from 11/16 -11/26
* ashughes is working from SF October 9-11, travelling October 8 and 12
* ashughes is working from SF October 9-11, travelling October 8 and 12
* dclarke PTO 10/5 & 10/8 vacation
* Monday October 8 is a public holiday in Canada
* Monday October 8 is a public holiday in Canada
* jrgm at Identity workweek Oct1-Oct5


== QA Team Updates  ==
== QA Team Updates  ==
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=== Desktop (Juan)  ===
=== Desktop (Juan)  ===
* Firefox
* Firefox
** Fx16b6
*** Went out today.
*** Final shipping next week (coincides with patch Tuesday - it will go throttled)
** Firefox 17 goes to Beta next week (reminder: this is the first version that won't work on OSX 10.5)
** Firefox 17 goes to Beta next week (reminder: this is the first version that won't work on OSX 10.5)
** Firefox 19 goes to Nightly next week
** Firefox 19 goes to Nightly next week
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*** please see stability reports for channel, platform, and mobile meetings
*** please see stability reports for channel, platform, and mobile meetings
* B2G (Geo/jhammink)
* B2G (Geo/jhammink)
** (jammink) new updated smoketest up and running (in both teams)
** (jammink) taking over bluetooth, wifi hotspot testing and specifying
** (nhirata) - email still blocked, there needs some more implementation.
** (nhirata) - email still blocked, there needs some more implementation.
** (nhirata) - most of the use case test counts have been done, need to fill in more test cases to fill in for use cases; more use cases to come from PMs.
** (nhirata) - most of the use case test counts have been done, need to fill in more test cases to fill in for use cases; more use cases to come from PMs.
** (jammink) working on Settings count still; about halfway through; some missing test areas
** (jammink) working out system test UCs from WebAPI spec
** (jammink) still need to import comms (SMS, Contacts) from TEF
** Birt reports, leaning on ops to close out [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786813 bug 786813] -  Need Read only access to MozTrap production DB  
** Birt reports, leaning on ops to close out [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786813 bug 786813] -  Need Read only access to MozTrap production DB  
** Moztrap features - the A-Team has begun implementing a prioritized list of features \o/ (see the [https://www.pivotaltracker.com/projects/280483# pivotal project] and filter on "b2g")  
** Moztrap features - the A-Team has begun implementing a prioritized list of features \o/ (see the [https://www.pivotaltracker.com/projects/280483# pivotal project] and filter on "b2g")  
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*** need ui for front end to link to crash reports
*** need ui for front end to link to crash reports
*** need symbols for back end to understand what the crashes are
*** need symbols for back end to understand what the crashes are
** [https://github.com/geoelectric/webapi-smoke-sprint API sanity suite] being built out here. Continuing to get running reliably under B2G mochitest, and finishing out areas this week.
** Recent code changes (e.g., [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773886 limiting who can load "app" resources]) to firm up security model have also made API permissions test setup tricky. Meeting w/ dchan and ptheriault today re: perms testing approach.
** Dclarke has started [https://etherpad.mozilla.org/b2g-mochitest-permissions etherpad] collecting techniques for API testing (and testing around) b2g permissions model:
* Apps (Jason)
* Apps (Jason)
**
** 3rd party app updates and new install API has landed - ready for testing
** App permissions in the manifest has landed - ready for testing
** Ramping up on the payments story
* Pancake (nhirata)
* Pancake (nhirata)
** Apparantly pancake is wrapping up soon? sfoster wanting to join in on b2g dev.  Might have to take a sneak peak.
** Apparantly pancake is wrapping up soon? sfoster wanting to join in on b2g dev.  Might have to take a sneak peak.
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=== Services (jrgm) ===
=== Services (jrgm) ===
* Sync Server (jrgm): [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Sync/ Sync Server]
* Sync Server (jrgm): [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Sync/ Sync Server]
**
** No update
* BrowserID (jrgm): [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/BrowserID BrowserID]
* BrowserID (jrgm): [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/BrowserID BrowserID]
**
** browserid beta released last week; well received in press and hackernews coverage.
* Community Members Onboarding
**
* Hiring and Training
* Hiring and Training
**
** At Identity workweek offsite this week


=== [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Execution/Web_Testing/Meetings/2012 Web (Stephen)]  ===
=== [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Execution/Web_Testing/Meetings/2012 Web (Stephen)]  ===
* Affiliates
* Affiliates
** Coming soon - [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=760631 bug 760631] - Allow affiliates to link back to a personal website - display website on leaderboard
** Coming soon - [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=760631 bug 760631] - Allow affiliates to link back to a personal website - display website on leaderboard
* B2G/Gaia testing:
** Only [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=796200 one remaining thing] from the A-team to land, before we can start writing, and it's awaiting the right process for inclusion into the Gaia repo
*** in talks with Dietrich / Gaia devs about it, and have [https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mozilla.dev.gaia/ALsnIMzL3Bc/discussion posted to mozilla.dev.gaia]
* Bouncer
** Will be meeting with Web Tools to determine a test strategy for crucial Bouncer changes (to help support Stub Installer deployment)
*** Current [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?classification=Server%20Software;query_format=advanced;component=Bouncer;target_milestone=2.0;product=Webtools;list_id=4563871 buglist]
* Engagement Projects
* Engagement Projects
**  
** No update this week
* Firefox Marketplace
* Firefox Marketplace
**
** [http://cl.ly/2z2O3t0J4440 2012-10-04] goes live tomorrow.
* Mozilla.com
* Mozilla.com
** working on next release
** working on next release
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** gear.mozilla.org launched, but was taken down after a day
** gear.mozilla.org launched, but was taken down after a day
*** We have budget for QA for each team for Q4, but we can collectively pool budget if needed as well
*** We have budget for QA for each team for Q4, but we can collectively pool budget if needed as well
** Postcard designs done. Working with vendor to get them printed. We should use them liberally at events.
* Upcoming Events
* Upcoming Events
** Italy event in Turin is going forward October 20-21.
** Italy event in Turin is going forward October 20-21.
*** More than 40 people registered for the event
*** More than 40 people registered for the event
***  
** Mozilla Festival - London, November 9th-11th  (ioana.chiorean)
*** Mobile in browser games
*** ARMv6 support promoted
*** WebApss
* Testdays (ashughes)
* Testdays (ashughes)
** [https://quality.mozilla.org/2012/10/firefox-17-aurora-testday/ Firefox Aurora Test Day] this Friday. Moderators needed.
** [https://quality.mozilla.org/2012/10/firefox-17-aurora-testday/ Firefox Aurora Test Day] this Friday. Moderators needed.
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===== [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/TCM MozTrap] (Cameron) =====
===== [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/TCM MozTrap] (Cameron) =====
* October is MozTrapToberfest.  Spending the month implementing fixes and features for MozTrap.
* We have a list of prioritized tasks from the B2G team in pivotal tracker
* We have a list of prioritized tasks from the B2G team in pivotal tracker
** [https://www.pivotaltracker.com/projects/280483#]
** (https://www.pivotaltracker.com/projects/280483#)
* [camd] is feverishly attacking the performance issue.  It's a complex and nuanced one, but I've got people to ask for help and I've got a plan of attack that I'm implementing.
* [camd] is feverishly attacking the [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=793581 performance issue].  It's a complex and nuanced one, but I've got people to ask for help and I've got a plan of attack that I'm implementing.
* stephend has offered help in writing automation to test it.
* stephend has also helped me find in-house folks who can help troubleshooting issues.


===== Community Members Onboarding =====
===== Community Members Onboarding =====
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== Basecamp Roundtable/Discussion Items ==
== Basecamp Roundtable/Discussion Items ==
* <add item>
* [jsmith] r2d2b2g - needs QA support & community strategy


== Other Roundtable/Discussion Items  ==
== Other Roundtable/Discussion Items  ==
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** What do we hope to achieve by partipating in MozCamps?
** What do we hope to achieve by partipating in MozCamps?
* Participation in the Mozilla Festival (related to the Task Project/Community) [marcia]
* Participation in the Mozilla Festival (related to the Task Project/Community) [marcia]
** Current proposal is here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Festival2012/Submit/OneAndDone/. Wiki page is here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Taskboard
** Current proposal is here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Festival2012/Submit/OneAndDone - Wiki page is here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Taskboard
** Need to think beyond just what we can do at the event
** Need to think beyond just what we can do at the event
** Mozilla Reps will be there, and time can be spent working with them to build community in their respective areas
** Mozilla Reps will be there, and time can be spent working with them to build community in their respective areas
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* Reminder of the new '''READY''' status ({{bug|264721}}) <strike>will</strike> might be introduced to Bugzilla tomorrow [Aaron]  
* Reminder of the new '''READY''' status ({{bug|264721}}) <strike>will</strike> might be introduced to Bugzilla tomorrow [Aaron]  
** A status declaration that passes responsibility for the bug from QA/triage to those responsible for implementing a fix
** A status declaration that passes responsibility for the bug from QA/triage to those responsible for implementing a fix
*https://etherpad.mozilla.org/QA-Staff-10-10-2012 next weeks meeting agenda on etherpad
** Updated this at https://etherpad.mozilla.org/qa-staff-10-10-2012 (slight format changes, capitalization of url)
* qa@mozilla.org and qa@mozilla.com are the same list, now [stephend]
** both [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=794762 were added] to mozilla.dev.quality (two-way, to receiving and sending from/to both should work)
*** having problems with duplicate postings, and moderation requests, working on it with IT


== Notes, Takeaways and Action Items  ==
== Notes, Takeaways and Action Items  ==

Latest revision as of 23:43, 3 October 2012


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QA Staff Meeting Notes Oct-03-2012

Meeting Details

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 #         +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 9245 (Canada)
 # IRC:    irc://irc.mozilla.org:6697/#qa

QA Org Items

  • New Hires & Interviews
    • 2 candidates in the pipeline for Bugmaster
    • 2 Web QA candidates in the pipeline
    • Introduction of Matt the security guy
  • Upcoming Events/Conferences
    • item
  • Notices: Please check the holiday release schedule in the blog post by Alex Keybl.

Travel / PTO

  • rbillings Friday 10/5 half-day
  • krupa is on vacation from 10/17-11/07
  • jammink on vacay from 11/16 -11/26
  • ashughes is working from SF October 9-11, travelling October 8 and 12
  • dclarke PTO 10/5 & 10/8 vacation
  • Monday October 8 is a public holiday in Canada
  • jrgm at Identity workweek Oct1-Oct5

QA Team Updates

Desktop (Juan)

  • Firefox
    • Fx16b6
      • Went out today.
      • Final shipping next week (coincides with patch Tuesday - it will go throttled)
    • Firefox 17 goes to Beta next week (reminder: this is the first version that won't work on OSX 10.5)
    • Firefox 19 goes to Nightly next week
    • NOTE: If you dogfood on Mac, please try running Firefox in 32-bit mode for the next week (report any issues to Juan and I)
      • Right click > Get Info > Check "Open in 32-bit mode"
  • ESR (ashughes)
    • 10.0.8esr releases on Tuesday
    • We will have two ESR branches to maintain (10esr and 17esr) for 2 release cycles starting next week
  • Stability (marcia)
  • Automation (ashughes)
    • mozmill-tests branches merge on Monday, please land any last minute patches by Monday morning Pacific
  • Sync Client (Tracy)
    • Reset Sync Addons wiped bug fixed
    • Reset password server bug fixed
    • No client train this week.
  • Community
    • item

Mobile (Tony)

  • Issues
  • Fennec (Kevin/Aaron)
    • Stability (nhirata)
      • please see stability reports for channel, platform, and mobile meetings
  • B2G (Geo/jhammink)
    • (jammink) new updated smoketest up and running (in both teams)
    • (jammink) taking over bluetooth, wifi hotspot testing and specifying
    • (nhirata) - email still blocked, there needs some more implementation.
    • (nhirata) - most of the use case test counts have been done, need to fill in more test cases to fill in for use cases; more use cases to come from PMs.
    • (jammink) working on Settings count still; about halfway through; some missing test areas
    • (jammink) working out system test UCs from WebAPI spec
    • (jammink) still need to import comms (SMS, Contacts) from TEF
    • Birt reports, leaning on ops to close out bug 786813 - Need Read only access to MozTrap production DB
    • Moztrap features - the A-Team has begun implementing a prioritized list of features \o/ (see the pivotal project and filter on "b2g")
    • Stability (nhirata)
      • need ui for front end to link to crash reports
      • need symbols for back end to understand what the crashes are
    • API sanity suite being built out here. Continuing to get running reliably under B2G mochitest, and finishing out areas this week.
    • Recent code changes (e.g., limiting who can load "app" resources) to firm up security model have also made API permissions test setup tricky. Meeting w/ dchan and ptheriault today re: perms testing approach.
    • Dclarke has started etherpad collecting techniques for API testing (and testing around) b2g permissions model:
  • Apps (Jason)
    • 3rd party app updates and new install API has landed - ready for testing
    • App permissions in the manifest has landed - ready for testing
    • Ramping up on the payments story
  • Pancake (nhirata)
    • Apparantly pancake is wrapping up soon? sfoster wanting to join in on b2g dev. Might have to take a sneak peak.
  • Community Members Onboarding
    • item

Services (jrgm)

  • Sync Server (jrgm): Sync Server
    • No update
  • BrowserID (jrgm): BrowserID
    • browserid beta released last week; well received in press and hackernews coverage.
  • Hiring and Training
    • At Identity workweek offsite this week

Web (Stephen)

  • Affiliates
    • Coming soon - bug 760631 - Allow affiliates to link back to a personal website - display website on leaderboard
  • B2G/Gaia testing:
    • Only one remaining thing from the A-team to land, before we can start writing, and it's awaiting the right process for inclusion into the Gaia repo
  • Bouncer
    • Will be meeting with Web Tools to determine a test strategy for crucial Bouncer changes (to help support Stub Installer deployment)
  • Engagement Projects
    • No update this week
  • Firefox Marketplace
  • Mozilla.com
    • working on next release
  • Mozillians
    • The team is doing an outstanding job of fixing and refactoring our automation suite.
    • In discussions to move the project to continuous deployment.
  • MDN
  • Socorro
    • Milestone 21 scheduled to ship today -- features/bugs
    • django based Socorro is queued for sec review
  • SUMO
    • Continuous Deployment; smooth sailing
  • Community Members Onboarding
    • no new updates this week

Community (Marcia)

  • Projects
    • gear.mozilla.org launched, but was taken down after a day
      • We have budget for QA for each team for Q4, but we can collectively pool budget if needed as well
    • Postcard designs done. Working with vendor to get them printed. We should use them liberally at events.
  • Upcoming Events
    • Italy event in Turin is going forward October 20-21.
      • More than 40 people registered for the event
    • Mozilla Festival - London, November 9th-11th (ioana.chiorean)
      • Mobile in browser games
      • ARMv6 support promoted
      • WebApss
  • Testdays (ashughes)
  • Video Work
  • QMO.next (Raymond):
  • Community Members Onboarding
    • item

Automation Development (Henrik, Dave)

General

  • TBD

Projects

  • TBD
MozTrap (Cameron)
  • October is MozTrapToberfest. Spending the month implementing fixes and features for MozTrap.
  • We have a list of prioritized tasks from the B2G team in pivotal tracker
  • [camd] is feverishly attacking the performance issue. It's a complex and nuanced one, but I've got people to ask for help and I've got a plan of attack that I'm implementing.
  • stephend has offered help in writing automation to test it.
  • stephend has also helped me find in-house folks who can help troubleshooting issues.
Community Members Onboarding
  • item

Basecamp Roundtable/Discussion Items

  • [jsmith] r2d2b2g - needs QA support & community strategy

Other Roundtable/Discussion Items

  • Q4 Goal Check in -https://intranet.mozilla.org/QA/Q42012_QAgoals
  • Participating in MozCamp Asia
    • Who from QA has applied to go?
    • What do we hope to achieve by partipating in MozCamps?
  • Participation in the Mozilla Festival (related to the Task Project/Community) [marcia]
  • Reminder of the new READY status (bug 264721) will might be introduced to Bugzilla tomorrow [Aaron]
    • A status declaration that passes responsibility for the bug from QA/triage to those responsible for implementing a fix
  • https://etherpad.mozilla.org/QA-Staff-10-10-2012 next weeks meeting agenda on etherpad
  • qa@mozilla.org and qa@mozilla.com are the same list, now [stephend]
    • both were added to mozilla.dev.quality (two-way, to receiving and sending from/to both should work)
      • having problems with duplicate postings, and moderation requests, working on it with IT

Notes, Takeaways and Action Items

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