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Firefox/Gecko Delivery Meeting Details

  • Wednesdays - 11:00am Pacific, 2:00pm Eastern, 18:00 UTC
  • Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room
  • Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room
  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)
  • #planning for backchannel
  • (the developer meeting takes place on Tuesdays)
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  • actions from last week:
  • schedule and progress on upcoming releases
  • review highlights and notices
  • respond to questions and concerns

Action Items

Schedule & Progress on Upcoming Releases

Firefox 3.5.12 / Firefox 3.6.9

  • schedule posted
  • should also include new locales

Firefox 4.0 Beta 3

  • code freeze on Monday
  • scheduled release next Friday, August 6th
  • major features

Jetpack SDK 0.6

  • pushed back a day due to respin to take half dozen low-risk fixes
  • scheduled for today, Wednesday, July 28
  • release notes


  • staging this week
  • tentative release date next Tuesday, August 3
  • two follow-on releases in August, scheduled at two week intervals
  • after that: AMO integration!

Fx Input

Input 1.6

  • Going live tonight at 1am
  • New Features: Mobile Pages, Clusters, URL submission on happy forms, some wording changes,

Input 1.6.1

  • Scheduled to go live next Wednesday, 8/4
  • New Features: Sites, Searching only with messages with URLs
  • Bug fixes we couldn't get to in 1.6

Input 1.7

Test Pilot studies

  • User background survey
  • User Perception Survey [July 22-29]
  • Firefox 4 Beta Interface Study [July 22-29]
  • Search Study [August 5-12]

Highlights / Notices

Notes or issues that don't correspond to a particular release you'd like people to know about.

  • Renaming Personas to Backgrounds is being discussed - rdoherty
    • A/B test showed 15% higher engagement on Firstrun page for 'Backgrounds'
    • Moves Personas from brand to feature, in line with the majority of Firefox features
    • Easier translation for locales
    • No changes to 3.6, string change for Firefox 4
    • Add-ons manager mockup
  • Feedback from Beta channels
    • 24,000 Response Test Pilot Survey - User Perception on the current FX browser
      • Aim: to understand user perception on FX in general over time.
        • Findings may not only aim to inform the design, but alsoSUMO.
        • We will also follow up a similar survey in a month to understand the change of user perception.
      • Survey Results
      • Results Highlights:
        • 74% launch their browsers multiple times a day
        • Majority of users like the new UI - gave 7,8,9 (out of 9)
        • People liked (see slides 9-12): the new tab-on-top UI; having more screen real estate; anything involving heavy JavaScript works better now.
        • People didn't like (see slides 13-16): hard to start private browsing and check out downloads due to the new menu design; easy to add a bookmark but hard to find bookmarks (no bookmarks bar by default); opening lots of tabs in Win 7 from the task bar
    • Top Feedback across channels
      • Problems downloading attachments from Hotmail [bug 581502]
      • Issues around SVG text properties [bugs filed]
      • Hootsuite doesn't work with our HTML 5 Parser [bug 581949]
      • Can't close/minimize [known bug 574833, also confirmed by TP discussion groups]
      • Don't get pretty theme with Windows 7/Vista w/o aeroglassi.e., default basic theme then get XP UI [cww will test bug and file appropriately -- Seems to be deliberate?]
      • App Tabs go away after restart [bug filed, Facebook]
  • Firefox 3.6.8 support issues:
    • We're seeing even more cases of Flash video not working or crashing (20+). A number of these appear to be bug 575326 which is Nvidia drivers incompatible with Flash 10.1 with hardware acceleration.
    • We're also seeing another increase (~15-20) in number of users with missing toolbars which is bug 547891
    • Lastly, with two updates in the past week, we're seeing more of the usual update breakages or problems on other sites being attributed to updates : McAfee blocking Firefox ( bug 582360 ), Zynga's Poker Facebook game not working, other Facebook issues (see bug 581123, since resolved) .
  • Clustered site comments around Firefox 4 Beta 1 via Input

Questions and Concerns

Please add any questions or concerns you would like discussed at today's meeting.

  • Any update on branching 2.0? Looking for invariants in the en-US branch plan, to get more data points on what's the least laborious and risky path for l10n, for which we'll need to end up with "all your local repos have set upstream urls for the life time of 4.0". (Axel)
  • Did we start to compare actual beta audience with the anticipated beta audience? (Axel)
    • we don't think that we're hitting enough mainstream (mayumi)
    • plan is to extend outreach to consumer audience starting with beta 3 and onwards as UI solidifies
  • How are we doing outbound communication on removal of UI language on UA string - bug 572656 (aakashd)
    • feels like something we should have talked about more broadly (beltzner)
    • beltzner to follow-up with engagement

Press & Public Reactions