Security/Meetings/2012-01-04

What needs testing (especially fuzzing) on mobile?

• curtisk, imelven, decoder, gkw => flesh out?
• https://etherpad.mozilla.org/mobile-security-testing is my list. Brandon said he has a "master plan", but I don't know anything about it yet.
• Mobile UI fuzzer idea is floating in the air, gkw is embedding into ateam meetings to find out how this might turn ou
  • I [decoder] can probably give hints about the crash triage automation etc. on Android because LangFuzz has that builtin already.
    • A-team might have some APIs we can use

Goals

• Develop prototype for automation and scalability of ARM and mobile fuzzing
  • Some of our machines under upgrading
    • Almost done - jsfunfuzz now running on Mac OS X Lion
  • Certain releng machines are only running DOM fuzzer now, should get jsfunfuzz / LangFuzz running too
• sync auth & BrowserID
  • Define options for better UX that still ensure secure auth and content security
• Plugin experience - drive update, click to play

Other Possible Goals

• Get stats on features we want to end-of-life (enablePrivilege, etc)
  • How can we be more specific than "etc"?
    • We can look at features that chrome/IE have removed for security reasons e.g. user:pass@host in URLs
  • Telemetry
  • commoncrawl.org might help, for public web anyway (enablePrivilege tends to be used on intranets, not public)
    • It could be replaced by an addon
• Security Questionnaire
  • Proof of concept implementation
  • Evaluation with previous security review participants
  • Overall improvements and decision if this is helpful and should be adopted into the process, or not

can we write these goals in a SMART format so we have clear targets? (Specific, Measurable, Actionable, Resourced, Time frame)

Rapid Impact (aka Rapid Response) Team+ (lucas)

• proposed by jpr
• temporary (1-2 month) task forces
• likely topics
  • reduce blackhole exploit kit effectiveness against firefox users (lucas)
    • mostly, plugin mitigations
      • plugin click to play is on track: david keeler's patches in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=711618 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=711552
      • plugin update experience -- partners / biz dev??
    • identifying sites that use the exploit kit is difficult, because the exploit is reliable (or at least, when it fails, it doesn't cause a crash)
  • search hijacking (abillings)

Team Embedding

• We completely reshuffled https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/TeamEmbedding assignments
  • Mobile - Ian
    • Engineering meeting - 930-1030 Wed (overlaps with secteam)
    • Demo showcase - 1200 Wed
  • web developer tools - tanvi
    • 10-11 Th https://wiki.mozilla.org/DevTools
  • Sync & services - dchan - tanvi also interested
    • 9:15-10 on Tuesday: Services https://wiki.mozilla.org/Services/Meetings
      • Normally ends before 10, mconnor has his team meeting after this
  • Identity, Sync Auth Project - Sid
    • 9:30-10 on Monday (Identity) https://wiki.mozilla.org/Identity/WeeklyMeeting
  • B2G, WebAPI - Lucas
  • Apps - curtis (involved sort of), dchan
    • https://wiki.mozilla.org/Apps/StatusMeetings
    • 11-12 Th weekly sync-up with infrasec
  • Jetpack, Add-on SDK, Add-on builder - Dan
    • 10-11 T https://wiki.mozilla.org/Jetpack/Weekly_Meeting
  • Thunderbird - dveditz; gkw is interested as well
  • JS - no meetings; covered pretty well by jesse / gkw / decoder
  • Rust - jesse (been inactive)
  • UX - tanvi, jesse interested
    • 11 on Thursday
  • DOM, XPConnect - no meetings, jesse is interested
  • Layout, Style - no meetings, jesse is interested
  • Firefox - Curtis
    • Channel meeting + Triage Tue/Thu 1400
    • Dev Mtg Tue 10
    • Delivery Mtg Wed 10
  • Automation tools (Robocop, Marionette) - gkw, decoder are interested
    • 10-11 on Mon (general ateam meeting, includes robocop)
    • 10-11 on Thu (Marionette)

SecReview MediaWiki Template (curtisk)

• https://wiki.mozilla.org/Form:SecReview
  • -OR- https://wiki.mozilla.org/SecReview/Create_new
• What it looks like
  • https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Reviews/testreview
• Similiar to Feature Page template
• Queryable for action items https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Reviews/ActionItems
• Possible other uses
  • Request for Review (like feature inbox)
• Much thanks to Dria for guiding me in this
• Gives us a list https://wiki.mozilla.org/Category:SecReview ( similar to https://wiki.mozilla.org/Category:Privacy/Reviews ) without having to remember to tag
• Action item for curtis: can we use this with infrasec as well [[category:SecReview ]] for the finding of all wiki via the category

Travel

• curtisk in MV https://intranet.mozilla.org/User:Curtisk
• Ian at INFILTRATE Conference 1/11-14 (Wed-Fri next week)
• sid on PTO Monday (1/9)
• decoder on PTO on Friday (traveling around), reachable via mail

Fuzzing at Mozilla Brown Bag (gkw)

• Possibly on Jan 30, 1PM (rescheduling as we speak)
  • curtisk will cancel SecReview slot for this day

Comms (curtisk)

• https://intranet.mozilla.org/User:Curtisk/CommsSchedule

Blog

BrownBag

• Feb- Imelven

Lightning talk

Crypto code

• decoder met with Kai Engert in Berlin (around CCC)
  • According to him, PSM and NSS need more developers. Ex: need better APIs