Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-01-13

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Thunderbird Meeting Details

• Tuesday, Jan 13th, 17:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)
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Agenda

• Who's taking minutes? --> Standard8
• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.

Action Items

Closed

• dmose - triage [tb3needs] bugs
• clarkbw - send mail about drivers about triaging 3.0b1 wanted this week

Thunderbird 3 Beta 2

• For reference, Gecko 1.9.1b3: Jan 13 Code Freeze, Jan 15 QA, Jan 26 Release according to their plan.

• clarkbw is release driver
• gozer is build engineer
• Proposed: Slushy string freeze from: Monday 2nd February 23:59 PST (three weeks)
• Proposed: Firm string freeze and slushy Code freeze from: Thursday 5th February 23:59 PST

• Blockers/Wanted
  • TB 3.0b2 - blocking: 60 (-17)
  • TB 3 Needs 6 (0) Note: bug 402573 waiting 1.9.1 approval.
  • TB 3.0b2 - wanted: 42 (+11)
• Proposed Blocking
  • Proposed Blockers (b? + milestone): 7 (-2)
• Fixed:
  • TB 3.0b2 - blocking: 22 (+1)
  • TB 3.0b2 - wanted: 16 (+3)

• We need to drive bugs with large string changes, e.g., archive, auto config, activity manager. Some way of marking bugs needing strings would be useful.
  • Archive patch landed.
    • One problem with local folders.
  • Activity Manager is awaiting a new patch from Emre.
  • AutoConfig is further away from review - initial patches posted bug 422814.
  • Multiple e-mail addresses and tags needs strings.
    • Multiple e-mails not a priority for b2.

Thunderbird 3

• Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap

• time to truly clamp down and ship sooner rather than later, even at the cost of substantial feature cuts
• we need to get everything tracked in bugzilla
• we will now have component drivers so that people actually own keeping subsets of bugs well-triaged
  • dmose to propose component assignments tuesday

• things to file & triage:
  • component drivers: blocking+ / blocking? bugs
  • davida: development roadmap
  • clarkbw: UX bugs from last weeks meeting
  • dmose: message reader bugs, tb3needs bugs

• new triage rules
  • to stay on blocking+ list, a bug must be owned by someone, even if that's (temporarily) the component driver
  • for each triaged bug on the blocking list: owner, target milestone, priority (P1 - P3; will be used to move bugs if milestone added)
  • criteria for blocking+: if this were the last blocker, we would make all of our users wait even longer for the existing changes in order to get the fix for this one?

• to think about:
  • when do we branch? (i suspect immediately after b2)
  • when do we lock down the branch for only blocking+ and approved+ (i suspect a couple of weeks after b2)
  • how do we want to handle existing wanted+ bugs? (throw them off the list?)
  • when should we target having the first round of filing / triage done? (1 week from Tuesday?)
  • There will be a TB 3 beta 3 (milestone created in bugzilla)

QA Updates

• topcrashes
  • bug 471492 crash [@ nsImapMailFolder::CopyMessagesOffline]
  • bug 422907 nsMsgLocalMailFolder::GetTrashFolder (rootFolder is null)
  • bug 470804 NS_GetInnermostURI (CAPS?) (TB2) (patch landed on trunk - not 1.9.1 or 1.8.x)
  • bug 470808 nsProxyEventObject::CallMethod (imap)
  • bug 470835 nsMsgLocalMailFolder::AddMessage (should be fixed in 12-23 nightly) (optimistically gone)
• in-testsuite? = bugs that need tests
• bug days resumed

Roundtable

• clarkbw, asuth, davida will be going down to MV this afternoon for several days.
• davida is expecting to attend FOSDEM & CBIT.

Status Updates

davida

• recruiting
• planning 2009
• long term planning
• working w/ clarkbw and others re: UX 3.0 planning

dmose

• goals for next two weeks:
  • improve efficiency of personal daily planning (on track)
  • figure out how to excise more distractions from my day (on track)
  • finish driving tb3 plan towards better alignment with reality (on track)
  • drive JS-in-mailnews patches into the tree (some progress)
  • finish GloDa review (lagging)
  • triage message-reader bugs (not yet started)

• non-goal activities
  • various strategy work/discussion

nth10sd

• Wrapping up mozmill work - now sort-of usable in TB.
• Minor patches - bug 432903 and bug 461317
• Triage, Rumbling Edge, QA, Mozmill discussions.
• School starts this week so will be shuffling on and offline.

Standard8

Non-goal activities:

• Reviews
• Sorted out blocker lists
• bug 472492 fix "ex = TypeError: GetDBView() is null" warnings seen in leak & bloat tests

Two week goals (end of week 2):

• Complete Password Manager migration
  • bug 419595 review comments addressed and patch landed.
  • Investigated and fixed issues with "complicated" usernames (i.e. "foo@bar.com") as a result of investigating bug 155172.
  • Need clarkbw's review on bug 239131
  • Need dolske's review on bug 472824 and to get it landed in 1.9.1 (have now requested blocking).
  • The transition will fix bug 155172, bug 469221 (both blockers) and several other bugs.
• Complete moving Leak and Bloat to Mozmill (if Mozmill issues are resolved)
  • Issues for running with Mozmill appear to be fixed. Need to spend some time working on the revised test.
• Investigate if there is a simpler way to switch fully to toolkit autocomplete without doing too much work.
  • Found a fix for bug 343332 however it still didn't solve the issues completely therefore dropped the bugs from my assigned list for now.
• Look at Performance tests
  • Get some rough ideas of what & how.
    • Had meeting with Alice (from MoCo) and got some good info on what Firefox does. Meeting minutes.

Two week goals (start of week 1):

• Finish driving in Password Manager
• Implement send in background
• Investigate Weave pop-tart system
• Try and get initial numbers for Ts to see if we can enable jemalloc.

bienvenu

• Reviews and Driving
• Use translated version of Local Folders for new local folders account, bug 464425

Two week goals (week 2)

• Finish folder archiving work. bug 451995
  • Initial patch landed. Tracking bug for remaining work - bug 473212

Two week goals (week 1) Get back to autoconfig repo; try to get pieces of it ready for review.

• I've been doing massive cleanup on the code, and have generated a couple wip patches in bug 422814

gozer

On vacation.

clarkbw

• Posted patch for message reader reply button
• Bug triage

wsmwk

• blurbed about bugs that need litmus testcases
• pinged ~30 FIXED bugs that may still need tests - in-testsuite?
• triage
• updated Thunderbird:Testing to include running nightlies and early releases

beckley

Penelope

• Mac and Windows builds were made but our QA was out sick, so testing will happen this week
• Having problems with Linux builds and will be looking at getting those soon

KaiRo

• SeaMonkey now uses the same ID and hiding method for status bar progress indicator, making life easier for shared code - bug 458533
• Did some testing of Lightning in SeaMonkey with Mnyromyr's tabmail patch - works fine with this, no error console messages, some missing menu items (overlay issues)

rebron

• Drafted 2009 event/conference plan. Still need to finalize resourcing (attendance, sponsorship).
• Evaluating GetSatisfaction as part of our support/help strategy. We have 35 articles in there already.
• Continuing web site work, coordinate web site localization.

Two Week Goal

• Distribution plan.
• Continue work on Support/Help plan.
• Beta 2 work.