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== Meeting Details == | |||
# Every Weds @ 1:30p Pacific Time - Mozilla HQ, Warp Core | |||
# | |||
# Vidyo: https://v.mozilla.com/flex.html?roomdirect.html&key=UK1zyrd7Vhym | |||
# Phone: +1 650 903 0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 95312 (US/INTL) | |||
# +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312 (US Toll Free) | |||
# +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 95312 (Canada) | |||
# IRC: [http://widget.mibbit.com/?settings=1b10107157e79b08f2bf99a11f521973&server=irc.mozilla.org&channel=%23qa irc://irc.mozilla.org:6697/#qa] | |||
== QA Org Items == | |||
* New Hires & Interviews | |||
** item | |||
* Upcoming Events | |||
** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Marketplace/Mozillian_Preview Mozillian Preview] Release for Marketplace and Desktop Web Apps - May 3rd | |||
** [https://quality.mozilla.org/2012/04/desktop-web-apps-test-day-may-4th/ Desktop Web Apps Test Day] - May 4th | |||
== [https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=j41a8ne525ml0heaipg0idb6is@group.calendar.google.com Travel / PTO] == | |||
* marcia PTO 5/3/12, working remotely next week. | |||
* geo, tchung, and jhammink in San Diego 5/7-5/11 for B2G workweek | |||
== QA Team Updates == | |||
=== Desktop (Juan) === | |||
* Firefox | |||
** Beta (ashughes) | |||
*** 13.0b2 [ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/nightly/13.0b2-candidates/build1/ candidates] are available for [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/Firefox_13/Test_Plan#Beta_2 testing] | |||
*** We are working on a plan to move to nightly Betas in the near future | |||
**** Daily automation and bug fix verifications | |||
**** Weekly milestones for manual testing, feature sign-offs, and verified fixes | |||
** 1.9.2 (ashughes) | |||
*** 10% drop in 3.6 ADUs since pushing EOL billboard last week (~5x our normal weekly rate) | |||
*** Pushing 3.6.* -> 12 major update live today | |||
* ESR (ashughes) | |||
** 10.0.4esr is live, nothing new to report at this time | |||
* Stability (marcia) | |||
** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2012-05-01#Desktop Desktop Stability Report for this week] | |||
* Automation (ashughes) | |||
** Henrik Skupin is now leading Mozmill Tests development | |||
** I'm working as a Desktop Automation consultant/feedback peer | |||
*** Source of truth for the automation needs of Desktop Firefox | |||
*** Working with Desktop Automation to on-board feature owners in development of their own Mozmill tests | |||
*** Will continue to give feedback on patches and assist with check-ins | |||
* Sync Client (Tracy) | |||
** No client trains | |||
* App WebRT (David/Jason/Aaron) | |||
** What happened this week? | |||
*** Final testing and debugging for mozillian preview release for desktop web apps (addressing qawanted bugs, verifying bugs, sanity smoke tests) | |||
*** Turned mozqa.com into a web app [http://mozqa.com/data/webapps/mozqa.com/appinstall.html App Install Page] | |||
*** First Pass on Kilimanjaro Triage for Desktop Web Apps | |||
*** Supporting web compatibility testing for mobile | |||
*** Apps Test Day on May 4th - Need moderators, sign up here | |||
** What's next? | |||
*** Continued development of test plan for web apps integration into desktop | |||
*** Exploratory and formlized testing as needed for desktop web apps | |||
*** Spec out the automation requirements formally for desktop web apps | |||
*** Mobile web compatibility analysis for top sites | |||
*** Start specing out test plan for AITC desktop client | |||
* Community & New Members | |||
** Utilizing qa-contribute list to grab new QA contributors, please help if possible. Check out [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Desktop_Firefox/GetInvolved/EmailInquiries this page] if you can help with responding to contributors. | |||
** Posted a getting started [https://quality.mozilla.org/2012/04/desktop-web-apps-test-day-may-4th/ post] on QMO, posted publicly to test day communication channels we use (e.g. facebook, twitter) | |||
** Contributors starting to try out web apps on nightly as first task I include to new contributors | |||
** Desktop task list is being developed, notes are [https://etherpad.mozilla.org/desktop-qa-tasks here] | |||
=== Mobile (Tony) === | |||
* Issues | |||
** | |||
* Fennec (Kevin/Aaron) | |||
** | |||
** Stability (nhirata) | |||
** | |||
* B2G (Geo/jhammink) | |||
**Started with Simple Bug Triage this week | |||
**Still testing/filing bugs against our own daily builds | |||
**Test Planning (testcase writing) in the works for this iteration | |||
**Writing to all new community members to onboard them. | |||
**Focus this week is on upgrades (build machines to 12.04 and SGS2s to ICS) so work and documentation in the works on that end. | |||
**Will be getting tagged candidate builds starting with this week | |||
**B2G workweek next week will get WebAPI automation effort jumpstarted. | |||
* Pancake (nhirata) | |||
** | |||
* Community Members Onboarding | |||
** B2G community is getting organized - we now have a mailing list created {{bug|750873}} and a community meeting in the works (http://www.doodle.com/8vknk39vumih6ape) | |||
=== Services (jbonacci) === | |||
* Hiring | |||
** Recruiting and screening continues... | |||
* Sync Server (jbonacci/jrgm) | |||
** Four deployments to Stage are in progress: | |||
*** Bug 748164 - Deploy server-storage 1.10-2 | |||
*** Bug 744051 - Deploy server-node-assignment rpm-1.7-1 | |||
*** Bug 750775 - Deploy server-core 2.7-3 to account portal | |||
*** Bug 717073 - sync: reg -> 1.0-2, sreg -> 1.0-12, core -> 2.7-3 | |||
** Work continues on TokenServer functional testing, bug regression, and documentation | |||
** Work continues on AITC and Sync 2.0 bug regression and documentation | |||
* BrowserID (jbonacci/jrgm) | |||
** Train 26: Bug 749756 - QA and deploy BrowserID train-2012.04.27 to production | |||
** Initial testing has begun for http://123done.org in Stage | |||
* Community Members Onboarding | |||
** item | |||
=== Web (Stephen) === | |||
* Affiliates | |||
** No new releases until after webdev workweek | |||
** Community member rshetty is still rocking it. | |||
* AMO | |||
** | |||
* Engagement Projects | |||
** Betafarm 1.1 release 5/7 aka [https://mozillalabs.com/en-US/ Mozilla Labs] | |||
** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReMo/Student_Reps REMO] 2.5 release 5/9 | |||
* Mozilla.com | |||
** pushed release yesterday | |||
* Mozillians | |||
** No new releases until after webdev workweek | |||
** We have community members coaching and onboarding community members on the project now | |||
* MDN | |||
**[http://scrumbu.gs/projects/mdn/2012-05-08/] working on next release | |||
* Socorro | |||
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced;target_milestone=8;product=Socorro;list_id=3006570 Releasing milestone 8 today] | |||
** New crash_trends report - https://crash-stats.allizom.org/crash_trends | |||
* SUMO | |||
** On continuous deployment | |||
* Community Members Onboarding | |||
** [https://github.com/ziranov Ziranov] has been contributing AMO test pulls | |||
=== Community (Marcia) === | |||
* Upcoming Events | |||
** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/QA_Community/Meetings/2012-05-02 QA Community Meeting at 4 PM] | |||
* Testdays (ashughes) | |||
** Friday, May 4th: [https://quality.mozilla.org/2012/04/desktop-web-apps-test-day-may-4th/ Desktop Web Apps] (jsmith) | |||
* Video Work | |||
** Rainer out but we have discussed what to do with the footage from MozCamp. | |||
*** Legal bug filed since some of the MozCamp footage contains Firefox interacting with minors and we are not sure we can use it. | |||
* QMO.next (Raymond): | |||
** | |||
* Community Members Onboarding | |||
** New QMO Community Spotlight post [https://quality.mozilla.org/2012/05/contributor-spotlight-john99/ for John99] | |||
=== Automation Development (Henrik, Dave) === | |||
==== General ==== | |||
* No updates | |||
==== Projects ==== | |||
* Mozmill 2: Massive JS code clean-up for the Mozmill extension (not IDE) | |||
* Mozmill Tests: Going forward in using manifests for test execution | |||
* Mozmill Tests: Upcoming wiki pages for tracking test failures, skipped tests across branches by including Bugzilla entries directly via the new extension | |||
===== [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/TCM MozTrap] (Cameron) ===== | |||
* Security review still in progress. Adam says he should be done with this tonight. | |||
* Continuing work on REST API / Automation connector still. ETA: hopefully by the end of the week. | |||
* Ubuntu wants OpenID supported. They're going to try to find someone from Ubuntu to implement it for us. | |||
* In talks with LibreOffice QA. Looks good for them to migrate from Litmus to MozTrap. | |||
* Rebecca converting our Selenium tests to Webdriver to fall in line with the rest of WebQA Selenium tests. | |||
==== Community Members Onboarding ==== | |||
* Mario Scheliga [:mario] - He is from Berlin and is working on a XULRunner application. He is totally interested in using Mozmill and want to help with testing Mozmill 2.0. | |||
== Kilimanjaro Discussion == | |||
* Open questions on kilimanjaro - add them [https://etherpad.mozilla.org/kilimanjaro-qa-questions here] (jsmith) | |||
* How best to approach projects using Github instead of Bugzilla (Identity, B2G, etc) | |||
* k90 Triage meetings - who should attend? how should we collect issues, represent them, and report back to the team? (tchung) | |||
* Kilimanjaro blockers - Trying to understand meaning against FF release cycle (jsmith) | |||
** Blocker of kilimanjaro = blocker of FF 15 release? Since FF 15 release is in late August? | |||
** Kilimanjaro blocker - Is it required that the code just has to land? Be in Aurora? Be released to users? | |||
* Followup on use cases discussion from last week - Next Steps (jsmith) | |||
== Roundtable/Discussion Items == | |||
* ashughes: MozTrap Guidelines Discussion ([https://mozqa.etherpad.mozilla.org/qa-moztrap-brainstorm etherpad]) -- when can we meet? who wants to take part? | |||
== Notes, Takeaways and Action Items == | |||
=== Today === | |||
* Add notes here | |||
** | |||
=== Last Meeting === | |||
* Action Items | |||
** | |||
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QA Staff Meeting Notes May-02-2012
Meeting Details
# Every Weds @ 1:30p Pacific Time - Mozilla HQ, Warp Core # # Vidyo: https://v.mozilla.com/flex.html?roomdirect.html&key=UK1zyrd7Vhym # Phone: +1 650 903 0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 95312 (US/INTL) # +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312 (US Toll Free) # +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 95312 (Canada) # IRC: irc://irc.mozilla.org:6697/#qa
QA Org Items
- New Hires & Interviews
- item
- Upcoming Events
- Mozillian Preview Release for Marketplace and Desktop Web Apps - May 3rd
- Desktop Web Apps Test Day - May 4th
Travel / PTO
- marcia PTO 5/3/12, working remotely next week.
- geo, tchung, and jhammink in San Diego 5/7-5/11 for B2G workweek
QA Team Updates
Desktop (Juan)
- Firefox
- Beta (ashughes)
- 13.0b2 candidates are available for testing
- We are working on a plan to move to nightly Betas in the near future
- Daily automation and bug fix verifications
- Weekly milestones for manual testing, feature sign-offs, and verified fixes
- 1.9.2 (ashughes)
- 10% drop in 3.6 ADUs since pushing EOL billboard last week (~5x our normal weekly rate)
- Pushing 3.6.* -> 12 major update live today
- Beta (ashughes)
- ESR (ashughes)
- 10.0.4esr is live, nothing new to report at this time
- Stability (marcia)
- Automation (ashughes)
- Henrik Skupin is now leading Mozmill Tests development
- I'm working as a Desktop Automation consultant/feedback peer
- Source of truth for the automation needs of Desktop Firefox
- Working with Desktop Automation to on-board feature owners in development of their own Mozmill tests
- Will continue to give feedback on patches and assist with check-ins
- Sync Client (Tracy)
- No client trains
- App WebRT (David/Jason/Aaron)
- What happened this week?
- Final testing and debugging for mozillian preview release for desktop web apps (addressing qawanted bugs, verifying bugs, sanity smoke tests)
- Turned mozqa.com into a web app App Install Page
- First Pass on Kilimanjaro Triage for Desktop Web Apps
- Supporting web compatibility testing for mobile
- Apps Test Day on May 4th - Need moderators, sign up here
- What's next?
- Continued development of test plan for web apps integration into desktop
- Exploratory and formlized testing as needed for desktop web apps
- Spec out the automation requirements formally for desktop web apps
- Mobile web compatibility analysis for top sites
- Start specing out test plan for AITC desktop client
- What happened this week?
- Community & New Members
- Utilizing qa-contribute list to grab new QA contributors, please help if possible. Check out this page if you can help with responding to contributors.
- Posted a getting started post on QMO, posted publicly to test day communication channels we use (e.g. facebook, twitter)
- Contributors starting to try out web apps on nightly as first task I include to new contributors
- Desktop task list is being developed, notes are here
Mobile (Tony)
- Issues
- Fennec (Kevin/Aaron)
- Stability (nhirata)
- B2G (Geo/jhammink)
- Started with Simple Bug Triage this week
- Still testing/filing bugs against our own daily builds
- Test Planning (testcase writing) in the works for this iteration
- Writing to all new community members to onboard them.
- Focus this week is on upgrades (build machines to 12.04 and SGS2s to ICS) so work and documentation in the works on that end.
- Will be getting tagged candidate builds starting with this week
- B2G workweek next week will get WebAPI automation effort jumpstarted.
- Pancake (nhirata)
- Community Members Onboarding
- B2G community is getting organized - we now have a mailing list created bug 750873 and a community meeting in the works (http://www.doodle.com/8vknk39vumih6ape)
Services (jbonacci)
- Hiring
- Recruiting and screening continues...
- Sync Server (jbonacci/jrgm)
- Four deployments to Stage are in progress:
- Bug 748164 - Deploy server-storage 1.10-2
- Bug 744051 - Deploy server-node-assignment rpm-1.7-1
- Bug 750775 - Deploy server-core 2.7-3 to account portal
- Bug 717073 - sync: reg -> 1.0-2, sreg -> 1.0-12, core -> 2.7-3
- Work continues on TokenServer functional testing, bug regression, and documentation
- Work continues on AITC and Sync 2.0 bug regression and documentation
- Four deployments to Stage are in progress:
- BrowserID (jbonacci/jrgm)
- Train 26: Bug 749756 - QA and deploy BrowserID train-2012.04.27 to production
- Initial testing has begun for http://123done.org in Stage
- Community Members Onboarding
- item
Web (Stephen)
- Affiliates
- No new releases until after webdev workweek
- Community member rshetty is still rocking it.
- AMO
- Engagement Projects
- Betafarm 1.1 release 5/7 aka Mozilla Labs
- REMO 2.5 release 5/9
- Mozilla.com
- pushed release yesterday
- Mozillians
- No new releases until after webdev workweek
- We have community members coaching and onboarding community members on the project now
- MDN
- [1] working on next release
- Socorro
- Releasing milestone 8 today
- New crash_trends report - https://crash-stats.allizom.org/crash_trends
- SUMO
- On continuous deployment
- Community Members Onboarding
- Ziranov has been contributing AMO test pulls
Community (Marcia)
- Upcoming Events
- Testdays (ashughes)
- Friday, May 4th: Desktop Web Apps (jsmith)
- Video Work
- Rainer out but we have discussed what to do with the footage from MozCamp.
- Legal bug filed since some of the MozCamp footage contains Firefox interacting with minors and we are not sure we can use it.
- Rainer out but we have discussed what to do with the footage from MozCamp.
- QMO.next (Raymond):
- Community Members Onboarding
- New QMO Community Spotlight post for John99
Automation Development (Henrik, Dave)
General
- No updates
Projects
- Mozmill 2: Massive JS code clean-up for the Mozmill extension (not IDE)
- Mozmill Tests: Going forward in using manifests for test execution
- Mozmill Tests: Upcoming wiki pages for tracking test failures, skipped tests across branches by including Bugzilla entries directly via the new extension
MozTrap (Cameron)
- Security review still in progress. Adam says he should be done with this tonight.
- Continuing work on REST API / Automation connector still. ETA: hopefully by the end of the week.
- Ubuntu wants OpenID supported. They're going to try to find someone from Ubuntu to implement it for us.
- In talks with LibreOffice QA. Looks good for them to migrate from Litmus to MozTrap.
- Rebecca converting our Selenium tests to Webdriver to fall in line with the rest of WebQA Selenium tests.
Community Members Onboarding
- Mario Scheliga [:mario] - He is from Berlin and is working on a XULRunner application. He is totally interested in using Mozmill and want to help with testing Mozmill 2.0.
Kilimanjaro Discussion
- Open questions on kilimanjaro - add them here (jsmith)
- How best to approach projects using Github instead of Bugzilla (Identity, B2G, etc)
- k90 Triage meetings - who should attend? how should we collect issues, represent them, and report back to the team? (tchung)
- Kilimanjaro blockers - Trying to understand meaning against FF release cycle (jsmith)
- Blocker of kilimanjaro = blocker of FF 15 release? Since FF 15 release is in late August?
- Kilimanjaro blocker - Is it required that the code just has to land? Be in Aurora? Be released to users?
- Followup on use cases discussion from last week - Next Steps (jsmith)
Roundtable/Discussion Items
- ashughes: MozTrap Guidelines Discussion (etherpad) -- when can we meet? who wants to take part?
Notes, Takeaways and Action Items
Today
- Add notes here
Last Meeting
- Action Items