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QA Staff Meeting Notes May-09-2012

Meeting Details

 # Every Weds @ 1:30p Pacific Time - Mozilla HQ, Warp Core 
 # Vidyo:
 # Phone:  +1 650 903 0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 95312 (US/INTL)
 #         +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312 (US Toll Free)
 #         +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 95312 (Canada)
 # IRC:    irc://

QA Org Items

  • New Hires & Interviews
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    • item
  • Upcoming Events/Conferences
    • B2G workweek in San Diego this week

Travel / PTO

  • camd 1/2 day on 5/24

QA Team Updates

Desktop (Juan)

  • Firefox
    • 13.0b3 candidates are available for testing
    • Still working on a plan for nightly Betas -- stay tuned for more details soon
    • 3.6.13-28 -> 12.0 automatic background update is live
  • ESR (ashughes)
    • 10.0.4esr is live, nothing new to report at this time
  • Stability (marcia)
  • Automation (ashughes)
    • Still working through Mozmill-2.0 prep and fixing failures
  • Sync Client (Tracy)
    • Client train rolled out yesterday
    • Sync is decoupling from SITB to more quickly iteratively improve the overall Sync experience. in the next quarter or so, that means:
      • username/password device connection (likely leveraging BID technology, but need key wrapping figured out)
      • resilient sync (sync as backup)
  • App WebRT (David/Jason/Aaron)
    • What happened this week?
      • Mozillian Preview for web apps! Give us feedback!
      • Signed off on Mozillian Preview Release
      • Test infrastructure needs met - Works for Web Apps on Desktop Firefox, Fennec Native, and B2G
        • Install the Mozilla QA WebRT Tester here for content testing
        • Create, modify, and install apps with different manifests here to do app manifest testing
    • What's next?
      • Planning and triage for next milestone for web apps (Firefox 15)
      • MozTrap Test Cases for Smoke Tests
      • Mobile Web Compatibility Testing
      • Automation Specification for desktop web apps
      • Continued testing support for desktop webRT testing
  • Weekly team meeting notes
  • Community
    • QA contribute mailing list management - Actively getting responses through manual approach
    • Working on updating the QA contribute auto-response email
    • Defining tasks for contributors to get started on

Mobile (Tony)

  • Highlights
    • Fennec Beta: go to build this week, go to market Tues, 5/15
    • Fennec Beta Testday: 5/18
    • B2G offsite: moz/TF is combining UX design into one; M3 testplanning(joint approach w/ TF), testing and automation work
    • Aaron released a small crowd-sourced based mobile website testing app
  • Fennec (Kevin/Aaron)
  • B2G (Geo/jhammink)
    • John/Geo/Tony at B2G work week
    • B2G QA teams on Mozilla and Telefonica side are essentially combining efforts, so working with Massimo on combined strategy. Still qualifying builds but now focus shifts also to planning for M3
  • Pancake (nhirata)
    • haven't had time to work on Pancake these couple of weeks.
    • They started bug triage which conflicts with the platform meeting
    • pushing more towards public beta still
  • Community Members Onboarding
    • There's an influx of QA Contribute emails, some asking about mobile QA. We will assist with responses
    • Santiago Hollman, Hernan Colmiero now actively contributing to testing, writing B2G bugs. Beria Lima also now producing Portuguese translation of B2G MDN docs.
    • marcia participated in the first B2G Community Conference Call representing QA. Notes from that meeting are here

Services (jbonacci)

  • Sync Server (jbonacci/jrgm)
    • Completed Sync Stage deployment testing for storage, nodes, ap, and reg/sreg (see ticket list below)
    • Deployment to Sync Production today (5/9/2012):
      • Bug 748164 - sync: storage -> 1.10-2, core -> 2.6.5-1
      • Bug 744051 - sync: node -> 1.7-3, core -> 2.7-3
      • Bug 750775 - sync: ap -> 2.9-4, core -> 2.7-4
      • Bug 717073 - sync: reg -> 1.0-3, sreg -> 1.0-13, core -> 2.7-3
    • In progress: AITC Stage deployment for Aitc 1.1 and load testing
    • Work continues on Sync 2.0, AITC 1.x, and TokenServer functional, load, doc, etc.
  • BrowserID (jrgm/jbonacci)
    • Train 26: Bug 749756 - QA and deploy BrowserID train-2012.04.27 to production
    • Testing BigTent
    • Testing l10n server
    • Q2 test planning for the following - Persona Beta:
      • Updated API, UI flow, RP, Keywrapping
      • VinzClortho (
      • KPI
    • QA Automation :
  • Community Members Onboarding
    • none at this time

Web (Stephen)

  • Affiliates
    • No updates
  • AMO/Marketplace
  • BrowserID
  • Engagement Projects
    • pushed 2.4 bugs
  • Mozillians
    • small release today - no new features being added
  • MDN
    • no push due to migrations
  • Socorro
  • SUMO
    • Continuous Deployment; smooth sailing
  • Community Members Onboarding
    • Onboarding Pavlo Falieiev

Community (Marcia)

  • Upcoming Events
      • Marcia co-presenting a talk with Marco Bonardo. The conference Keynote is still in flux but will likely be given by someone from Mozilla. The Conference organizers were very interested in having a female give the keynote and also were specific in asking for some part the other talk to include QA. This will be a great example of teaming up with Development for a good cause.
  • Testdays (ashughes)
    • If you are running a testday, please make sure you notify David Burns so he can launch the TestdayBot
  • Video Work
  • (Raymond):
    • pushed Tabzilla and other fixes last Wednesday
  • Other

Automation Development (Henrik, Dave)


  • A*Team work week in London 21st-25th May 2012
  • 6th London Selenium meetup event scheduled for 29th May 2012


  • Mozmill
    • Mozmill 1.5.12 was released to restore our Firefox and Thunderbird tests after the Global-Per-Compartment patch landed in Nightly builds.
    • Discussing running the Default to Compatible scripts against nightly Beta builds via Mozmill-CI
    • Work is ongoing for running our tests with Mozmill 2.0
MozTrap (Cameron)
  • Security review feedback found 2 issues. Both now fixed and pushed to dev.
    • Adam Muntner is verifying the fixes today.
  • Request to push MozTrap to prod created. ETA: could be by end of this week, if all goes well.
  • Development on REST API nearing completion.
  • new quote from elopio at Ubuntu: "I have just done a demo of MozTrap for my managers and they loved it. I'll say it again, you are doing a wonderful job. Thanks."
Community Members Onboarding
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Kilimanjaro Discussion

  • More clarification around the Basecamp milestone? (heavily b2g related) (tchung)
  • Switching Monday's web apps meeting into the k9o QA coordination meeting (jsmith)
    • Discussions for k9o no longer occur in QA Staff, only in k9o QA coordination meeting
    • Past few meetings are showing a trend in this direction - deserves it's own discussion for those interested
    • Going forward - Make this QA staff section titled k9o highlights?
  • Proposal for 2-day test strategy sprint for k9o (jsmith)

Roundtable/Discussion Items

  • Updating the QA contribute auto-response email here [jsmith]
  • If we want to include community in our weekly meetings we need to figure out a better way than just dialing in (some people have bandwidth issues with vidyo, and many cannot dial internationally) [marcia]
  • Could teams include a link to their team meeting notes each week for reference? I have included the Desktop notes for this week. [marcia]
  • QA Contribute Response Strategy - Help Us Out! [jsmith]
  • Rapid Beta?
  • Did we decide to have community meetings every other week?
  • Please help us dogfood the upcoming sandboxed version of flash -

Notes, Takeaways and Action Items


  • tchung send basecamp thoughts to bmoss before tomorrow's meeting
  • regarding k9o sprint, once we have a clear definition we will work out details of how it will play out
  • optimize vidyo information and get details of vidyo record for community to participate [marcia]
  • turn wiki section title into links to your main team page [team leads]
  • everyone needs to work on one security bug per day verifications
  • next weeks meeting will be 1/2 community and 1/2 k9o
    • fill in k9o meeting items you want to discuss under roundtable
  • join the effort to help with contribute emails

Last Meeting

  • Action Items
    • jbonacci to follow up on Sync Contacts issue
    • ashughes to follow up re: bug 751256
    • geo and mbrandt to tag team to create a meeting re: github and bugzilla issue.
    • Contact ashughes if you are interested in
    • Invite community members to the meeting
    • Announce meeting on QMO/Cross link to wiki