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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)
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Agenda

Who's taking minutes? --> Bienvenu
Minute taking Schedule. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!

Action Items

Friends of the Tree

No nominations this week.

Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to rebron@mozilla.com so that he can send them a shirt!

Thunderbird Development

For more details, see also the driver meeting notes.

Feature Work

Account Provisioner

The Privacy Review is scheduled. Next step: turn the add-on code into a patch to core.

The Draft Schedule is being updated.

OpenSearch

squib is taking over the coding of Open Search, thanks!
Blake submitted an update to the addon with a new UI.
Blake is writing the Privacy Review Documentation.
The Draft Schedule is being updated.

Experiments

Thunderbird Conversations

Nice progression of the userbase, went from ~2000 users on the 2.0 series to ~32000 (nice!). Lots of press coverage (lifehacker, lifehacker japan) which certainly helped.

Main issues:

https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/issues/333
reply button near the top of the message (http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/topics/improvements_for_thunderbird_conversations)
https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/issues/309 (help welcome for that one)

Redirected the feedback to getsatisfaction (see http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/tags/conversations); any help is welcome. About to issue 2.0.7 to change the "would you like to leave some feedback" link to point to getsatisfaction.

Compose in a tab

Account Summary

About ready to release version 1.1; just waiting to get some additional testing before uploading to AMO (probably on Friday). See bug 489999 for the XPI.

Ubuntu Unity Integration

EDS Contacts Integration
- Create, update and delete now appears to work for contacts and mailing lists. Woo!
- Found a regression introduced by my de-RDF'ing patch that prevents users from deleting their mailing lists - patch up for review at bug 673480
- Have begun testing and fine-tuning for August 4th demonstration. Screencast forthcoming.

Schedule and Progress

Thunderbird 5 (Miramar)

Major Updates will be unthrottled today.
Miramar nightly users have been redirected to the Earlybird channel.

Thunderbird 6

beta1 released on beta channel last week, few bugs ready to land for future betas

Thunderbird 7

tb7 on earlybird, earlybird testers: please look for address book issues since some of the backend was changed in tb7, folder pane issue on startup has been fixed on trunk, will land on tb7 today if review passes

Thunderbird 8

Thunderbird 3.1.x

Firefox have scheduled the next 1.9.2 release for August 16th., Thunderbird 3.1.x next release is scheduled is for August 16th (code freeze next week)
Bug Lists: 3.1

Extension of the week

Maximize Message Pane - recommended by Wayne Mery

QA Updates

Ludo away, tb6 beta1 and earlybird tb7 continues

Marketing Updates

PR Update: several articles 1,2 on Mozilla Enterprise Working Group, 6.0b1 news 1, 2.
6.0b1 launched last week. Next: additional betas and Thunderbird final release.
Continuing work on Test Pilot studies.
blog.mozilla.com/thunderbird coming soon
Revisiting alpha/earlybird naming. "Mozilla Thunderbird Earlybird" not working well in several cases.

Infrastructure Update

faster Windows build improvements, feedback requested
new Minis in new data center

Build / Release Update

Thunderbird 6.0b1 pushed to beta
Build infrastructure improvements, mainly win32
Testing patches for bug 656736 - Upgrade to latest MozMill for Thunderbird's tests
Unthrottling Thunderbird 5 major updates

Web Update

Upgrading SuMoMo to Kitsune latest version (July 19, 2011)

Documentation

Support

(If you support Thunderbird or write or translate documentation to help support Thunderbird, please subscribe to the tb-support-crew mailing list and briefly introduce yourself to the list)

1938 new support topics (2013 1 week ago) - Media:18-24July2011-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png
Thunderbird 5 Support Issues
See this week's Support Appendix for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details
DRAFT Thunderbird 6 User Features Page for TB 6 docs, draft page for TB 7, draft page for TB8
Alternatives for moving support.mozillamessaging.com to mozilla.org - Doesn't really matter to end users where the Thunderbird Support website is we just want to minimize current and future technical "yak shaving".
Roland is tired of missing Windows subtleties :-) and is therefore moving to using Windows 7 for day to day work after TB6 ships

Lightning Updates

major kudos to Philipp for rapidly getting EDS provider "work in progress" out: currently smartify, read and delete events work
Some urgent bugs showed up post 1.0b4 (Don't you love that "beep" ? ;-)
They all have fixes now, spinning 1.0b5
Update: Bugs fixed in this release are here
Builds temporarily available at:

Mac unified: http://mozilla.kewis.ch/1.0b5rc1/lightning-all-mac.xpi
Linux unified: http://mozilla.kewis.ch/1.0b5rc1/lightning-all-linux.xpi
Windows is still building

All builds will of course move to ftp.mozilla.org when done.

Please take a moment to test these builds!

We want to get 1.0 out as fast as possible. Blocking list triaged down to 30 or so bugs to facilitate 1.0 release
Blocking 1.0 list here
Lets talk about how reasonable my decisions are when I have the list

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Roundtable Highlights

Attendees

bienvenu bwinton jb roland mconley fallen gozer jhopkins rebron sancus andreasn wsmwk

@@ Line 25: / Line 25: @@
 * No nominations this week.
-Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size and send it to rebron@mozilla.com so that he can send them a shirt!
+Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to rebron@mozilla.com so that he can send them a shirt!
 === Thunderbird Development ===
-For more details, see also the [[Thunderbird/Driver_Meetings/2011-07-19|driver meeting notes]].
+For more details, see also the [[Thunderbird/Driver_Meetings/2011-07-26|driver meeting notes]].
 ==== [[Thunderbird:Feature Work|Feature Work]] ====
@@ Line 34: / Line 34: @@
 ===== [[Thunderbird/Experiments#Account_Provisioner|Account Provisioner]] =====
-* The [[Privacy/Reviews/AccountProvisioner|Privacy Review Documentation]] is written.  Next step: schedule the review.
+* The [[Privacy/Reviews/AccountProvisioner|Privacy Review]] is scheduled.  Next step: turn the add-on code into a patch to core.
-* This feature now has a Draft Schedule:
+* The Draft Schedule is being updated.
-** Write Technical Documents.  (2011-07-18)
-** Get Privacy Review.  (2011-07-29)
-** Get Security Review.  (2011-07-29)
-** Make changes as required by Privacy and Security Reviews. (2011-08-09)
-** Merge add-on code into core:  (2011-08-15)
-*** Remove unused parts of the code.
-*** Refactor pieces to use the built-in functions.
-*** Re-style to blend better with the rest of the UI.
-** Get core patch reviewed, and make required changes.  (2011-09-12)
-** Get core patch committed.  (2011-09-26 =  Final Merge day - 1)
-** Release the hounds!  (2011-12-20 =  Release Day for TB 9)
 ===== OpenSearch =====
-* No progress, as I've been concentrating on the Account Provisioner.
+* squib is taking over the coding of Open Search, thanks!
-* I should really release an update to the addon this week, though, to pick up Squib's changes.
+* Blake submitted an update to the addon with a new UI.
+* Blake is writing the Privacy Review Documentation.
+* The Draft Schedule is being updated.
 ==== [[Thunderbird/Experiments|Experiments]] ====
@@ Line 73: / Line 64: @@
 ===== Ubuntu Unity Integration =====
-* Spent most of last week tackling EDS address book authentication, which is now working.
+* EDS Contacts Integration
-* The deadline to demonstrate add/write capability for the EDS add-on is '''August 4th'''.  I seem to be on track.
+** Create, update and delete now appears to work for contacts and mailing lists.  Woo!
+** Found a regression introduced by my de-RDF'ing patch that prevents users from deleting their mailing lists - patch up for review at [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=673480 bug 673480]
+** Have begun testing and fine-tuning for August 4th demonstration.  Screencast forthcoming.
 ==== Schedule and Progress ====
@@ Line 80: / Line 73: @@
 ===== Thunderbird 5 (Miramar) =====
-* Currently doing throttled major updates as we keep an eye out for any stability issues. Should be opening it up later this week.
+* Major Updates will be unthrottled today.
-* Miramar nightlies have been stopped, redirecting users to early bird - It's a a two stage process you'll need to update twice to get there.
+* Miramar nightly users have been redirected to the Earlybird channel.
 ===== Thunderbird 6 =====
-* Thunderbird 6.0b1 is being build and tested - should be released by the end of the week, but we're aiming for Wednesday morning.
+*  beta1 released on beta channel last week, few bugs ready to land for future betas
 ===== Thunderbird 7 =====
+* tb7 on earlybird, '''earlybird testers''': please look for address book issues since some of the backend was changed in tb7, folder pane issue on startup has been fixed on trunk, will land on tb7 today if review passes
 ===== Thunderbird 8 =====
@@ Line 94: / Line 87: @@
 ===== Thunderbird 3.1.x =====
-* Firefox have scheduled the next 1.9.2 release for August 16th.
+* Firefox have scheduled the next 1.9.2 release for August 16th., Thunderbird 3.1.x next release is scheduled is for August 16th (code freeze next week)
 * Bug Lists: [http://hg.mozilla.org/users/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com/drivertools/raw-file/default/bugtracking/index.html?branch=3.1 3.1]
 === Extension of the week ===
-* [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/thunderbird/addon/mailbox-alert/ Mailbox Alert] allows you to specify, for each seperate mail folder, a message, sound and/or a system command that will be executed when new mail is found there.
+* [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/maximize-message-pane/ Maximize Message Pane] - recommended by Wayne Mery
 === [[Thunderbird:Testing|QA]] Updates ===
-* Validating 6.0b1
+* Ludo away, tb6 beta1 and earlybird tb7 continues
 === Marketing Updates ===
-* 6.0b1 this week.
+* PR Update: several articles [http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2388733,00.asp 1],[http://www.informationweek.com/news/internet/browsers/231002116 2] on Mozilla Enterprise Working Group, 6.0b1 news [http://www.ghacks.net/2011/07/21/thunderbird-6-beta-released-new-logos-upcoming/ 1], [http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Thunderbird-6-0-arrives-in-Beta-Channel-1283252.html 2].
-* Scoping out Test Pilot studies.
+* 6.0b1 launched last week.  Next: additional betas and Thunderbird final release.
+* Continuing work on Test Pilot studies.
+* blog.mozilla.com/thunderbird coming soon
+* Revisiting alpha/earlybird naming.  "Mozilla Thunderbird Earlybird" not working well in several cases.
 === Infrastructure Update  ===
-* On-site all week in MV
+* faster Windows build improvements, feedback requested
-* Network rewiring completed
+* new Minis in new data center
-* New build capacity should come online this week
 === Build / Release Update ===
-* Thunderbird 6.0b1 pushed to test channels.  Preparing for release to beta channel.
+* Thunderbird 6.0b1 pushed to beta
-* Testing upstream buildbotcustom changes.  Will need a buildbot master downtime window to deploy them.
+* Build infrastructure improvements, mainly win32
-* Win32 build slaves are now using the NTFS filesystem (was: FAT32).
+* Testing patches for bug 656736 - Upgrade to latest MozMill for Thunderbird's tests
+* Unthrottling Thunderbird 5 major updates
 === Web Update ===
-* Fixed a few bugs on the new site, and updated l10n merges.
+* Upgrading SuMoMo to Kitsune latest version (July 19, 2011)
-* Learned how to update the web l10n dashboard!
-* Started discussion on moving sumomo to mozilla.org
 === Documentation ===
@@ Line 129: / Line 123: @@
 === [[Thunderbird/Support|Support]] ===
 (If you support Thunderbird or write or translate documentation to help support Thunderbird, please [https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/tb-support-crew subscribe to the tb-support-crew mailing list] and briefly introduce yourself to the list)
-# 2013 new support topics (1478 two weeks ago) - [[Media:11-17July2011-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png]]
+# 1938 new support topics (2013 1 week ago) - [[Media:18-24July2011-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png]]
-# [[Thunderbird/Thunderbird5.0SupportIssues|Thunderbird 5 Support Issues]] - thanks to cameleon and tanstaafl for helping keep the page current
+# [[Thunderbird/Thunderbird5.0SupportIssues|Thunderbird 5 Support Issues]]
-# See [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2011-07-19/SupportAppendix|this week's Support Appendix]] for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details
+# See [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2011-07-26/SupportAppendix|this week's Support Appendix]] for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details
 # [[Thunderbird/Support/TB6UserChanges|DRAFT Thunderbird 6 User Features Page for TB 6 docs]], [[Thunderbird/Support/TB7UserChanges|draft page for TB 7]], [[Thunderbird/Support/TB8UserChanges|draft page for TB8]]
+# [[Thunderbird/MovingSuMoMoToMozillaDotOrg|Alternatives for moving support.mozillamessaging.com to mozilla.org]] - Doesn't really matter to end users where the Thunderbird Support website is we just want to minimize current and future technical [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/yak_shaving "yak shaving"].
+# Roland is tired of missing Windows subtleties :-) and is therefore moving to using Windows 7 for day to day work after TB6 ships
 === Lightning Updates ===
+* major kudos to Philipp for rapidly getting  EDS provider "work in progress" out: currently  smartify, read and delete events work
 * Some urgent bugs showed up post 1.0b4 (Don't you love that [http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/calendar/resources/content/sound.wav?raw=1&ctype=audio/x-wav "beep"] ? ;-)
 * They all have fixes now, spinning 1.0b5
@@ Line 150: / Line 147: @@
-* We want to get 1.0 out as fast as possible. The current blocking list is too long, I will go through those bugs and throw out as many as possible.
+* We want to get 1.0 out as fast as possible. Blocking list triaged down to 30 or so bugs to facilitate 1.0 release
 * Blocking 1.0 list [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=prod%3Acalendar%20flag%3Ablocking-calendar1.0%2B&columnlist=bug_id%2Cassigned_to%2Cstatus_whiteboard%2Cshort_desc&list_id=814062 here]
 * Lets talk about how reasonable my decisions are when I have the list
@@ Line 161: / Line 158: @@
 === Attendees  ===
-bienvenu bwinton jb ludo roland mconley reid fallen gozer jhopkins rebron sancus
+bienvenu bwinton jb  roland mconley  fallen gozer jhopkins rebron sancus andreasn wsmwk
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